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Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages



First off I have been playing around with 'compose > text' and 'send >
text' options in Thunderbird so I apologize ahead of time if A: lines
are excessively long and B: that is an issue for you in whatever you
are using to read this.

On 9/24/2016 8:33 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:

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What you're saying about the use of "apt-get upgrade", that's just
what I was saying the other day about the difference in how "apt-get
install" and "apt-get upgrade" reacts...

Except that...

In the case I was saying the other day, it wasn't like this.
Libreoffice was installing fine via "apt-get install". There were no
glitches, no potentially negative advisements, to be seen in the
"install" action towards upgrade. BUT if I performed a wide open,
generic "apt-get upgrade" (purely on a whim), many libreoffice
packages (including libreoffice itself) were then held back.

Just tested it again and am still receiving the following (regarding
libreoffice only via "apt-get upgrade"):

"The following packages have been kept back: libreoffice
libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base
libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc
libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress
libreoffice-math libreoffice-report-builder-bin
libreoffice-sdbc-firebird libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
libreoffice-writer"

Per your suggestion, perl and perl-base are, YES, additionally now
included in what's being reported as being held back for that same
"apt-get upgrade" just now. :)



Normal behavior for 'apt-get upgrade', will not install anything new in
a literal, based on package name sort of way and also will not install
anything that would cause a package to be removed. So if upgrading
LibreOffice would pull in something you don't already have it will get
held back. If there is a version as part of the package name so
libsomething01 would have to be removed and libsomething02 would have to
be install, then you have a removal of a package you have and install of
something you don't so again it gets held back.

I have not looked into what all differences there are between 'apt
upgrade' versus 'apt-get upgrade', but one difference is that 'apt
upgrade' will pull in new packages in order to upgrade something you
already have.

I don't normally upgrade from the command line, so have not used 'apt
upgrade' enough to notice if it will do the upgrade in cases where
libsomething01 has to be removed and libsomething02 has to be installed.

Later, Seeker




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