Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]

[Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>]

On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > I'd also like the copy to the list to land in my list folder, not be
> > > discarded.
> >
> > The ultimate feature is just a duplicate filter (a couple of lines of
> > procmail). You'll have to configure the "mail sorter" (you're probably
> > using KMail) accoringly, because probably the "copy for you" will
> > arrive earlier.
>
> Isn't this the essence of the problem? The couple of lines of procmail
> will put the first mail ("copy for you") in the inbox. The actual list
> mail will probably be disposed of.

Yes, it is.

> > See this thread in... debian-user[1], of all things (from 2003) where
> > our ancestors hashed this out already (with some recipes). Just ask if
> > you decide to use procmail (I am, alas, a KMail analphabet myself).
> >
> > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/10/msg05065.html
>
> There is nothing there which I can see ensures the list mail ends up in
> the list folder,

tomas said:
Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky about *not*
being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do his/her part and express
this wish with the headers in use for this purpose. At least *before* scolding
others <:*)

Well, I am picky about not being cc'ed.  I have tried to be polite.  I have 
asked tomas, who thinks I should do something in my headers, how to do it.   
He tells me I can't.  So now I feel free to "scold others". 

The CoC says not to send cc's unless specifically requested.  It is not a lot 
to ask that people should follow the CoC.  And I shall start following the 
CoC and complaining, off list, every time, to everyone who cc's me.  Perhaps 
then they will stop this pain of a practice.

It is perfectly reasonable that people should be asked to do one of three 
things:
1) subscribe 
or
2) read the archives 
or
3) request a copy.

Lisi