Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community
Bartosz Olender writes:
> Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding
> that "GNU is *Not* Unix"
May I recall that most of the systemd-haters knows the recursive
expansion of GNU?
> and because of that we should have the freedom
> to create better solutions, rather than being a UNIX purist and keeping
> it old-school.
If the solution is better is welcome. Nobody ever blamed bash, nobody
ever blamed the GNU tar for having compression builtin. I would add
that in the old times when as a student I was working on 4.3 BSD
workstations, we gladly used the GNU commands as replacement for
the standard ones because they were better.
It indeed addresses the problem of boot dependencies solution, maybe
it could have addressed it in a bit smarter way. Other choices
are/were design flaws, some have been overcomed by the effort of
Debian mantainers and luckyly are the most annoying, some other not
and all are mostly bound to lack of experience (and self-conteit).
What systemd should have (other than becoming mature) is have a
documentation that can match that of gcc or Emacs. Documentation
that should come from the very same developing team.
> If you don't want to accept systemd as advancement for GNU/Linux
> platform (especially desktop) and rather stay with the pure UNIX
> approach, maybe it's time to switch to an actual UNIX and not use
> "UNIX-like" GNU/Linux.
Wow, never seen so much wisdom! :>
May I recall that in the early '90 BSD was still blocked by a lawsuit
and therefore GNU/Linux was the only free choice? And *BSD took a
while to restart. When in my university we heard about Linus work we
all said "wow, a Unix you can bring home!".
GNU/Linux was successful because it was free AND it was a flavour of
Unix.
> From what I predict the future for Debian doesn't look that great, I
> think that either most current users unhappy with systemd switch will
> migrate to Gentoo or BSDs,
Migration to Gentoo may become necessary because of the weight of the
software that requires optimized compilations. And the poor support
for some "esoteric" architectures like, who knows, some strange
shaped, G4 ppc based personal machines.
BSD could be a necessary for some people if Linux becomes a "Not at
all Unix" system :) :) :).
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