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Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 3 December 2014 at 01:18, Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Scott Ferguson
> <scott.ferguson.debian.user@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2 December 2014 at 18:05, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>>> On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>>> >>
>>> As far as I've read, I believe only Slackware absolutely refuses to use
>>> systemd.


>>He's never said that (though I'd welcome an
>> authoritive correction). Understandably cautious for someone who
>> manages a huge workload almost single-handedly.
>> He has said he intends to remain with the current init system - that
>> he likes some of the abilities of systemd, and that "one day" he may
>> move to systemd.[*1] Which is not close to "absolutely refuses to use
>> systemd".
>> [*1]:-
>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/interviews-28/interview-with-patrick-volkerding-of-slackware-949029/
> Let's quote a little bit more of that, just for completeness:

Did you read what you are responding to - or what you've just quoted??

> ----------------------------------
> ... Whether we end up using them or not remains to be seen. It's quite
> possible that we won't end up having a choice in the matter depending
> on how development that's out of our hands goes. It's hard to say
> whether moving to these technologies would be a good thing for
> Slackware overall. Concerning systemd, I do like the idea of a faster
> boot time (obviously), but I also like controlling the startup of the
> system with shell scripts that are readable, and I'm guessing that's
> what most Slackware users prefer too. I don't spend all day rebooting
> my machine, and having looked at systemd config files it seems to me a
> very foreign way of controlling a system to me, and attempting to
> control services, sockets, devices, mounts, etc., all within one
> daemon flies in the face of the UNIX concept of doing one thing and
> doing it well.
> ...
> ----------------------------------
> That, and some tweets that are more recent than this interview, leaves
> me with a slightly different impression than neutral wait-and-see.


> [...]
> --
> Joel Rees
> Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
> Look first in your own heart,
> and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy.
> Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well.

Brilliant satire(?)
Kind regards

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