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Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

On 11/12/2014 3:10 PM, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed 12 Nov 2014 at 06:27:56 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> On 11/11/2014 2:16 PM, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>>> New users do not need to be be aware of all the background to the
>>> choosing of a default init. No advertisement is needed. By definition,
>>> they do not care. They want Debian. Please let them have it.
>> Wow... what arrogance...
> Sorry to shock you. A cup of tea works wonders in such situations.

Not shocked, not at all - which is sad, really.

>> That is tantamount to treating the debian userbase as lost little
>> children who need to have all of the important decisions made for them.

> Sounds like, doesn't it?

Yep... thanks for admitting you're an arrogant... 'member'... lol

> Let's be practical and see how how a screen in d-i could present an
> init system choice to a user, particularly having a new user in mind.
> Here is my first suggestion:
>    You are about to install an init system. Please choose
> 	1. Systemd
> 	2. Sysvinit
> 	3. Upstart
> 	4. A. N. Other
> 		1, 2, 3, 4?
> Feel free to criticise and improve on it.

Sounds good to me, but in reality, since the default *and only* init
system for the last very many years was Sysvinit (this extremely salient
point seems to be completely and totally lost on the systemd
proponents), I think only systemd and sysvinit need to be there... but
allowing for additions once required bugs implementing them are resolved
as fixed.

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