Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)
On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 12:33:06 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
> >I'm guessing you really don't want an OS without logging... :)
>
> syslog works just fine - don't need (or want) systemd to take over
> logging with a binary format
The journal logs to rsyslog by default on Debian. It works great and
gives far more detail than it did before. 99/100 people are impressed.
> >Based on the large number of posts you've made complaining that Debian's
> >plans don't match your needs.
> >If you took that as a "if you don't like it b*gger off" then you took it
> >wrongly - I reserve that for those who continually talk about departing
> >Debian. It seems that you, and others, are bent on demanding something
> >from developers that those developers don't want to do - it appears to
> >upset you and cause you stress. In short - a fruitless exercise (unless
> >I've seriously misjudged you and complaining does gives you pleasure).
>
> Some of us actually have to plan for things like transitions - and
> the lack of clarity regarding development plans makes that rather
> difficult.
Plans are great. At some point though you need to get down to a bit of
testing. But you probably know that.
> Ok... so multiple init systems are going to be supported in Jessie,
> and maybe beyond - ok. What seems to be very much up in the air is
> whether that choice will be (well) supported at upgrade or install
> time. That makes a rather big difference.
Depends what you mean by "supported". There is no problem in installing
sysvinit after an upgrade or before upgrading. It works really well.
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