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Re: question about systemd



On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 20:06:14 +0200
Slavko <linux@slavino.sk> wrote:

> Ahoj,
> 
> Dňa Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:41:12 +0100 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
> napísal:
> 
> > And to illustrate how much work Debian maintainers put in to respond
> > to users' concerns:
> > 
> >   root@gnome-jessie:~# apt-get install sysvinit-core systemd-shim
> >   Reading package lists... Done
> >   Building dependency tree
> >   Reading state information... Done
> >   The following extra packages will be installed:
> >     cgmanager libcgmanager0 libnih-dbus1 libnih1
> >   Suggested packages:
> >     pm-utils
> >   The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >     systemd-sysv
> >   The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >     cgmanager libcgmanager0 libnih-dbus1 libnih1 systemd-shim
> > sysvinit-core 0 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not
> > upgraded. Need to get 482 kB of archives.
> >   After this operation, 1,030 kB of additional disk space will be
> > used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> > 
> > What more could a Debian user want?
> 
> I don't know what other users want, but i tried it some days ago (when
> the latest version of the systemd comes into testing) and i want e.g.
> to be able to reboot, shutdown, suspend and hibernate the machine as
> regular user from my XFCE session. That is all, what i want and when i
> try it, i get message about insufficient permissions.

From what I've heard on this list, Xfce has drunk the systemd koolaid.
If that's true, screw em, they're not the only game in town. If nothing
else, use Openbox with a no-brand panel, and that's kind of like Xfce.
Oh, and make a few sudoers entries so you can reboot, shutdown, suspend
and hibernate as a normal user.

> 
> I ask here for help, but no one (i expect the response especially from
> these who tells, that this ML is for support not for discussion) give
> me the solution how to get the sufficient permissions back.

I'd just work around their silly BS. sudoers plus shellscripts plus one
of those multi-launchers to call those shellscripts should do that job.

And maybe submit a bug report to Xfce telling them their new master
killed features you use every day.

SteveT

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