Re: question about systemd
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:58:13 -0400
> James Ensor <belgianpainter@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't have a strong opinion about systemd one way or the other, but
> > even after all of the debate and discussion that has been going on,
> > it was still not clear to me if systemd is something that is required
> > to be run, or if it's just a default init system that can be changed.
> >
> > So I went ahead and installed sysvinit and purged systemd so see if
> > something bad (tm) would happen, but as far as I can tell my system is
> > running fine. The only two things that changed are (1)
> > network-manager has been removed, so I'm using wicd instead for
> > network management, and (2) suspend from xfce no longer works so I
> > installed acpi-support to enable suspend. But everything else seems
> > to be working just fine. System is Debian Jessie amd64, and I'm
> > using Xfce4.
> >
> > So I guess my question is what's all the hubbub?
> >
> > James Ensor
>
> James,
>
> Please, please, *please* write down a detailed article on exactly
> how you did this. I'll help you if you'd like --- I write for a living,
> a lot of it tech writing.
>
> If what you did works for everybody when Jessie goes stable, you've
> just singlehandedly ended this whole argument. If you want to
> collaborate on this article, I'll throw an extra hard disk in my
> experimental box to tech edit your instructions.
>
> This just might be good news.
>
> SteveT
>
Again, I just don't see what the big deal is, or why you would need a
detailed article about how to remove packages from debian. I'm not
looking to wade into any arguments about systemd. I certainly do not
claim to have solved any great crisis...
Anyway, this is what I did:
aptitude install sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils
aptitude purge systemd
aptitude purge libsystemd-login0 libsystemd-daemon0
Just for kicks, I also purged cgmanager. I guess I like to live
dangerously. Nothing bad seems to have happened.
Like I said, the only thing I was using that was also removed was
network-manager, but I don't really miss it.
But, to get more to the point of my original question, there has been
so much discussion about systemd here, but as far as I can tell very
little of this discussion has been of practical use for a debian-user.
Cheers,
James
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