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Re: systemd-shim to be removed?



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On 10/02/2014 at 09:55 AM, Rob Owens wrote:

> From: "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org>
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 07:08:37PM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote:
>> 
>>> To me, a non-expert user, what sense does this make?
>> 
>> jessie is still in development, it has not been released. If you 
>> are unduly concerned by running an in-development suite, stick
>> to stable.
> 
> It's true that this shouldn't be an issue in stable (once this
> stuff hits stable), but in the meantime how are we supposed to test
> (using unstable or testing) if the releases of systemd and
> systemd-shim are not coordinated?  Would it be unreasonable to ask
> the maintainers to coordinate their releases?

If I'm understanding matters correctly, the problem that caused the
current bad situation isn't something that would be addressed by
coordinating releases. It would have to require coordinating migration
from unstable to testing, which AFAIK the maintainers have no control
over; I believe that's controlled entirely by the FTP masters.

If there's any decent way to express a requirement that one migration
depend on another, aside from package dependencies of a sort which are
ruled out in this case by the need to allow other things, I'm not aware
of it offhand. I'm fairly sure someone will point out something that
will seem obvious in hindsight...

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