Re: Let's have a vote!
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:13:51 -0400 (EDT)
Rob Owens <rowens@ptd.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "The Wanderer" <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
> >
> > On 09/22/2014 at 06:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> >
> > Those are votes for Debian, but not for systemd, or for "Debian with
> > systemd as central".
> >
> > In the case at hand, the latter two are what people are asking to be
> > able to have a vote (or at least meaningful input other than making
> > noise) on, by virtue of being users who will be affected by the
> > decision rather than by virtue of doing work to implement the
> > decision.
>
> I think the best voting method at this time is popularity-contest.
> Make sure you have PARTICIPATE set to "yes".
>
> Of course the vote is stacked somewhat in favor of systemd-sysv,
> since it is the default and in some cases unavoidable due to
> dependencies of desktop software. So all of the "systemd-sysv" votes
> in popularity-contest represent either:
>
> 1) people who prefer systemd-sysv
> 2) people who got systemd-sysv as a result of dependencies of
> installing a package that they really do want 3) people who don't
> care enough to switch away from the default, or 4) people who aren't
> aware of the options, don't know what an init system is, etc.
>
> -Rob
That's not really a true choice. There are a lot of other init programs
out there, any one of which could be voted for. There's the position
"let's wait until we have a good init to move to", which is very
different from "let's use sysvinit". There's no place to write in an
"other".
And then there's this: If something wins 50something to 40something, or
perhaps even 60something to 30something, that doesn't solve anything,
because 1/3 of the people are disenfranchised.
I think we're in this position because in the committee vote A) there
was a rush to judgement and B) the choices encompassed only systemd and
two not so good choices.
SteveT
Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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