Re: Let's have a vote!
On 2014-09-16 02:00 +0200, lee wrote:
> Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Saturday 13 September 2014 21:46:31 lee wrote:
>>> You users, and the community members,
>>> whoever they are, need to speak as well.
>>
>> Perhaps, just perhaps, many of them don't agree.
>
> Well, I've now seen two people speaking up in response, and 0% of them
> spoke in favour of systemd. If there were so many people disagreeing,
> they must be a minority because so few of them speak up.
Okay, so I will speak up. Only once, because I don't have time, desire
or energy to engage in endless flamewars about systemd.
> And I'd also like to hear what advantages systemd actually brings about
> that would make it desirable.
https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd should get you started.
> If there were so many people disagreeing that forcing systemd upon the
> users, why aren't there any of them speaking up and explaining why
> systemd is supposed to be such a great idea?
Presumably because they have other, more important things to do (see
above). Anyway, what is "forced" upon users is not systemd as PID 1
(aka systemd-sysv), but rather systemd-logind, shipped in the systemd
package and usable together with sysvinit (or upstart) and systemd-shim.
Here is another pointer as to why this is done:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/06/msg00455.html
> Shall we have a vote? AFAIK, there's nothing that would speak against
> having one, in this very mailing list. Why not ask the users? Why
> should only Debian developers be allowed to vote but not the users?
Because the people who do the work get to make the decisions, that's the
way Debian works.
Cheers,
Sven
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