Re: Jessie and Systemd integration
On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:53:21 +0100
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 09:44:49 +0100, Joe wrote:
>
> >
> > So we're looking for some kind of direction here, hoping that
> > someone who actually knows for sure will tell us whether the use of
> > systemd as init will be completely unavoidable in future Debian
> > releases. If not, if it will only be the 'default', then it may be
> > worth putting a bit of effort into making an alternative practical.
>
> For anyone intending to install Jessie, which is the only thing which
> matters for Debian and the immediate future, the practical
> alternatives and direction to take have been described many times
> over the past few months. In fact, in the last few days:
>
> [🔎] 12092014224057.ff13b66f7de8@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk">https://lists.debian.org/[🔎] 12092014224057.ff13b66f7de8@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
> [🔎] 17092014175756.ef88cea781b0@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk">https://lists.debian.org/[🔎] 17092014175756.ef88cea781b0@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
>
> You definitely need to
> do:
> apt-get install
> sysvinit-core
> In addition you may also choose to
> do: apt-get install
> systemd-shim
> if you decide your installation needs it.
>
>
Yes, this is understood, but is it the final word? We have a 'technology
preview' of systemd in Wheezy, it will be the default in Jessie. Will
it remain the default in the forseeable future or is it expected to
become mandatory in a later release?
I'm aware that nothing can possibly be set in stone yet, but the people
responsible for systemd-shim and other compatibility components must
have a fair idea whether these are intended as temporary workarounds
until 'all' packages are compatible with systemd, or whether they are
expected to remain permanent parts of Debian.
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Joe
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