Re: Jessie and Systemd integration
Le 18/09/2014 18:04, J Rowan a écrit :
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:53:21 +0100
> Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 09:44:49 +0100, Joe wrote:
>>
>>> So we're looking for some kind of direction here, hoping that
>>> someone who actually knows for sure will tell us whether the use of
>>> systemd as init will be completely unavoidable in future Debian
>>> releases. If not, if it will only be the 'default', then it may be
>>> worth putting a bit of effort into making an alternative practical.
>> For anyone intending to install Jessie, which is the only thing which
>> matters for Debian and the immediate future, the practical
>> alternatives and direction to take have been described many times
>> over the past few months. In fact, in the last few days:
>>
>> [🔎] 12092014224057.ff13b66f7de8@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk">https://lists.debian.org/[🔎] 12092014224057.ff13b66f7de8@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
>> [🔎] 17092014175756.ef88cea781b0@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk">https://lists.debian.org/[🔎] 17092014175756.ef88cea781b0@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
>>
>> You definitely need to
>> do:
>> apt-get install
>> sysvinit-core
>> In addition you may also choose to
>> do: apt-get install
>> systemd-shim
>> if you decide your installation needs it.
>>
>>
> Yes, this is understood, but is it the final word? We have a 'technology
> preview' of systemd in Wheezy, it will be the default in Jessie. Will
> it remain the default in the forseeable future or is it expected to
> become mandatory in a later release?
>
> I'm aware that nothing can possibly be set in stone yet, but the people
> responsible for systemd-shim and other compatibility components must
> have a fair idea whether these are intended as temporary workarounds
> until 'all' packages are compatible with systemd, or whether they are
> expected to remain permanent parts of Debian.
>
It is also importat to know if it is worth the effort to report bugs on
software which happen in a systemd-shim or sysvinitcore without any
systemd (yes I have a server in jessie without any systemd at all, and I
hope it stays this way, because it uses policy-rc.d which last time I
had a look had no equivalent in systemd world).
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