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Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7



On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
>> On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>
> I do not have a smart phone - I have an "Oldies Phone" - an unblocked
> Telstra EasyCall, with decent sized buttons, made in Taiwan, or some
> other Asian country, so that I mostly press the correct button,
> instead of trying to answer an incoming call and instead turning on an
> unwanted camera, and, for telephone use, not camera/radio/GPS/phaser
> and all of the other non telephone stuff.

I bet there is still the ability to do things with your more simple
phone than you realize.

> The NSA watches everyone Australian, for the Australian federal
> parliament. The SS and the government(s) must know everything about
> anyone, and, no doubt, the KGB and the Chinese equivalent, see all of
> the classified information, so they all know who you communicate with,
> what is communicated with you, and, with whom, you have relationships
> of any sort, and, exactly what each relationships involve, and, how
> frequently. The voyeurs do have to be able to get their jollies.

I don't doubt that for one minute, but the world is under surveillance
.. including US citizens; it will continue indefinitely if they can
manage to keep the funds (under both true and false pretenses).

> We have adequate bandwidth, with "ADSL2+" - as I previously said,
> Skype 2.2 worked well enough for me. Whilst it was not high resolution
> (I think it went up to 640x480), or, high frame rate, and,
> occasionally, I would get frame dropout (?), it was generally good
> enough, for me. And, I was happy, and, it was an exciting experience,
> to be able to see people with who I was communicating, and, to be able
> to see thir reactions to what happened in the course of a dialogue.

ADSL2 is great, so long as you are close enough to the exchange AND your
local exchange or other parts of the network path are not congested.

> And, just out of interest, whilst the policy of the Loony Nazi Party
> government, is "fibre to the exchange, copper from the exchange to the
> house", I am advised that the installation of fibre to the house, is,
> at this stage, still unchanged, and the copper to the house, has not
> yet been imposed.
> 
> So, I believe it is not a bandwidth problem.

It is for some, due to cable length of their DSL service and/or
congestion (local or otherwise).

> And, in terms of party politics, remember that the whole of the
> federal parliament, agreed that Australians are not entitled to human
> rights, and thence, to the protections (such as they exist elsewhere)
> of a Bill of Rights.

Actually we are subject to a bill of rights, see here:

http://www.clrg.info/2011/02/validity-of-bill-of-rights-1688/

Don't let them screw with our constitution either, under false
pretenses.  Local councils corporations operate as local government
bodies today, but without the rights to do what they are doing ...
legitimize those corporations and they'll go gang busters -- give them
an inch, they'll take a 100 miles!  And as for the recognition of
Aboriginals in AU ... that is also completely unnecessary; any person,
no matter what, if they set foot in Australian, then they are covered by
our constitution.  Aboriginals are no different to other Australians,
every person is covered.  They want to screw the Constitution under the
guise of /fixing/ these things, instead they'll f*** things right up and
we'll lose even more rights.

> The bottom line remains unchanged - with Skype 2.2, and it not having
> the advances of the later versions of Skype, I could engage in video
> calls, using Debian 6, the operating system of my choice, and, with
> people using different versions of different operating systems, so
> that I could see the person with whom I was communicating, and, in
> motion, as we communicated (which allows for seeing changes in
> expressions, due to a person's reaction to things said), and, that was
> both ways, and, now, Microsoft has taken away that facility and that
> functionality.

It may not be that simple for all sorts of reasons.  There might be
bandaid fixes in place for old versions that they want or need to remove
for other reasons.  Of course, it may still be simple just the same.

Cheers
A.

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