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Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

On Mon 07 Jul 2014 at 16:14:25 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 16:03:31 +0200
> berenger.morel@neutralite.org wrote:
> > I forgot that systemd is able to "spy" processes it starts, IIRC, to 
> > avoid tricks like the double fork, which means a better control on 
> > zombie processes. Don't know much about that, though.
> Dam, dude, doublefork is how my Umenu hierarchical menu works. If that
> breaks, a program I've used since 1998 goes down the toilet.
> Let me ask you this: If doublefork is banned, how does one keep working
> with the child program when the parent is terminated, without using
> that stupid nohup command that continually grows its own, huge and
> insecure nohup.out files, in whatever its current directory happens to
> be?
> I certainly hope that systemd isn't cancelling a design pattern used
> since the dawn of time.

No banning, no cancelling, just the use of cgroups to keep track of
processes. No matter how many times a process forks it can never be


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