Brian wrote: > The fact though is that most users do not avoid startx or a > DM. Anyone who uses xinit has gone to some trouble to avoid either > of these two ways of getting X running. You would expect them to > know what they are doing. But people using xinit have not gone to any trouble to avoid other methods. They just haven't installed xdm or another X display manager such as lightdm or other. Not installing something is not going to any trouble. However I know that installing them is so easy that it isn't any trouble either way. It is just a configuration decision and choice. After the GNOME gdm/gdm3 fiasco I stopped using those and just log in the old way and start X the old way with xinit again now. Which means I am using .xinitrc file again just like we all did before xdm came along. But in my .xinitrc I load up the .Xresources file so do not use .Xdefaults. I agree that anyone using xinit and .xinitrc will probably know what they are doing. :-) > Those who use startx etc have some expectation of being provided with > uncomplicated correct information. The 'startx' is basically the "simple" way to start X and to use the system supplied defaults. Which is a good way to get things going for the new person who doesn't know what they want or who are happy with the defaults. It isn't required though and after making a few customizations I find it easier to just use 'xinit' directly and my own full .xinitrc file with only my own choices made there. (shrug) > Being told to use ~/.Xdefaults isn't in that category. The sooner > any mention of it or .xinitrc in Debian is stamped out the better. I think use of .Xdefaults isn't as good as .Xresources. But there isn't anything wrong with .xinitrc. What is your complaint about it? > This has been going on for at least 10 years. If only the ~/.Xdefaults > advocates would say why and how they use it - but they never do. X is > versatile but nobody is going to go wrong by using ~/.Xresources. I can only guess that they think it is simpler than using xrdb and an .Xresources file. But since xrdb and .Xresources were invented to solve the problem of having $DISPLAY properties instead of $HOME properties I have moved on from .Xdefaults to xrdb and .Xresources to solve that problem. > > I recommend using .Xresources loaded into the xrdb at start time. It > > makes the most general sense to me. That way customizations are a > > property of your $DISPLAY and not a property of your $HOME. But > > either works if you understand the search and merge order. > > I think we are singing from the same hymn book but we are on different > pages. :) :-) Bob
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