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Re: FW: [CTTE #727708] Default init system for Debian



On Wed, 2014-02-12 at 16:18 +0100, berenger.morel@neutralite.org wrote:
> I think that Debian have a quite great percentage of tinkerers 
> which will be able to produce lot of documents to replace an init system 
> by another one. In fact, there already have some, which allowed me to 
> give a try to systemd monthes ago.
> Plus, there still are the other kernels that Debian supports. Hurd is 
> still unofficial ( I'm not sure about that ), but kFreeBSD is, and 
> systemd is not compatible with it, so there will be a not too hard way 
> to revert to sysVinit.

You are aware that once systemd is the default, then unlikely udev still
will be a separated package? It's not that easy to provide a distro with
several init systems. Arch did provide init scripts and systemd for a
while, but after some time init scripts was dropped.

Good luck with kFreeBSD. I've got a FreeBSD install, but installing
Debian's BSD did fail for me and even if it won't fail for you, don't
expect that BSD is a replacement for Linux. Ok, your thought is, that
because there's a BSD port, it still would be easy to reconfigure Debian
Linux to use init scripts, but I suspect you're mistaken.

I'm against systemd and pro init scripts, but I guess we have to live
with systemd in the future, resp. I'm already doing it, not for my
Debian, but for my more often used Arch Linux, since a long time ago.

There's nothing to discuss anymore, since the decision was made by the
Debian developers and IMO to hope that init scripts will survive for
those who are willing to reconfigure their Debian is an utopian dream.
If we like it or dislike it, sysvinit / init scripts are dead.


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