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Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0



Hi Mark,

On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 05:13 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> > Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent
> > duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of
> > using MS Windows.
> 
> 
> Don't bitch about Outlook.  I will continue to use it, never mind why.  Windows is not evil.  The mistake was mine, Outlook is not to blame, and I screwed up.  I will try not make that mistake again, but if I do, it's not the end of the world.  Just ignore it, and if you have to, take a deep breath.

Yes, mistakes can happen. There still is another mistake ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't nag about endless lines, Cc'ed messages etc. that often, just
when the amount of mails with such mistakes does increase too much for
my taste and I get sad of editing the quotes of my replies and to delete
duplicated mails.

It's not the end of the world, but unfavourable when you argument about
not running into issues with your computer, while causing issues for the
list, when you're using Windows, since Mate AFAIK indeed has no negative
impact to a Linux MUA.

IOW you might not experience issues with your computer, with Mate and/or
Windows, but you at least cause issues when using Windows. Those issues
aren't very serious, but you can't speak about your experiences, that
everything is ok, while it's not ok.

I can install Cinnamon and Mate on my machine too and at least use Mate,
it doesn't matter if I use Debian, Ubuntu or Arch. But again, for a
production environment my requirement is to get as less issues as
possible.

There's nothing bad with using the software somebody does prefer, I
didn't talk about Windows, but perhaps you understand that some users
are using e.g. Debian stable without or at least with less non-free
and/or third party packages. People using stable Linux distros without
adding third party repositories expect something that does cause less
issues, really less issues.

Regarding to the OPs request I guess that there's a reason that Debian
maintainers didn't upgrade to Cinnamon 2.0 yet. It's easy to build
packages that run on your or my machine, but a maintainer needs to
ensure that things don't break by nearly every combination of installed
packages.

I'm not nagging about you. My concern is to nag about recommending a
third party repository, that is known to cause issues. If the OP does
like Cinnamon, then IMO the OP should use the official packages to
ensure that it's as stable as possible and not to switch to Mate from a
third party repository. If the OP needs a bug fix or a new feature of
Cinnamon 2.0, it might be worse the effort to build it from source.

Last 2 Cents regarding to this part of the topic,
Ralf


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