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Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0



On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:42:44 +0200, Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:
MATE can be installed alongside other DEs on Fedora so I'm not at all
convinced by this MATE-conflicts-with-"common-software" meme!
Soneone said upthread that MATE uses GTK2. AFAIK it's being
transitioned to GTK3 so it'll then be less of a burden to package it
for Debian.

Correct, Mate does a transition to GTK3, but as explained before, it still would be a PITA to make packages for official repositories, since you need to prevent against such a conflict:

On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:43:43 +0200, Alex Moonshine <afterclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, but why would one need mate-file-archiver (Engrampa) and
file-roller on the same machine? The former is a fork of the latter
(and to all practical means just the same package under different
name). Same goes for nautilus/caja, gedit/pluma, etc.
I think that either you use MATE DE and Engrampa replaces file-roller
for you, or, if you want to install MATE on a system that already has
some other DE with file-roller installed, that you want to keep, you
install mate-base package, which (I believe) includes none of extra
applications (and you can go on using file-roller under MATE).

Somebody might want to test GNOME 3 and Mate on the same install. There are workarounds. I e.g. didn't install mate-file-archiver and add a link /usr/bin/matedialog -> zenity.

On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:52:17 +0200, Mark Allums <mark@allums.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 11:34 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> The dialogs from Gnome 3 (zenity) serves, so mate-dialogs-gnome isn't
> needed if zenity is installed (and mate-dialogs-gnome can serve in
> place for zenity as well).

Not really, you at least need to manually add a link, regarding to the
different program names.

I never did, and never had to.  It works fine.

Just because you're using software that doesn't use this software as a dependency.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/matedialog
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Aug 18 18:06 /usr/bin/matedialog -> zenity

;)

Sure, if mate-file-archiver is installed, you might not need
file-roller, but you perhaps want to be able to install a DE by it's
meta-packages, but this doesn't work, if one of the DEs is Mate, because
those packages cause conflicts.


Again, never a problem for me, since v. 1.2.

I don't have any package named mate-file-archiver installed or available to install. There's engrampa, which does not conflict at all with file-roller.

Upstream:

https://github.com/mate-desktop/debian-packages
--> https://github.com/mate-desktop/debian-packages/tree/master/mate-file-archiver

https://github.com/mate-desktop/archlinux-packages
--> https://github.com/mate-desktop/archlinux-packages/tree/master/mate-file-archiver


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