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OT: Sources.list Question



On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 11:39 +0100, François TOURDE wrote:
> Le 15665ième jour après Epoch,
> Ralf Mardorf écrivait:
> 
> > On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 09:27 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 21 November 2012 09:22:57 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 09:18 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> > > On Wednesday 21 November 2012 08:53:38 Chris Bannister wrote:
> >> > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:43:16PM -0500, Fred White wrote:
> >> > > > > Hello List,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It is considered (well, actually it is) rude to hijack threads on
> >> > > > mailing lists.
> >> > >
> >> > > According to my email client (KMail 1.9.10) he didn't.  What thread did
> >> > > you think that he had hijacked?
> >> > >
> >> > > Gmail also thinks that he started a new "conversation", but Gmail often
> >> > > breaks threads.
> >> >
> >> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/11/msg00909.html
> >> >
> >> > so Fred is the OP.
> >> 
> >> Quite.  Exactly.  And Chris said that he hijacked the thread.
> >
> > errare humanum est
> 
> No error in this case. He hijacked Crypticmofo's message id
> 50AC43A5.3010001@gmail.com as marked on my client (Gnus), and marked on
> lists.debian.org:
> 
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/11/thrd2.html#00909
> 
> Maybe gmail uses refs + subject to mark threads.
> 
> The real problem hijacking threads is that fred question can be deleted
> because of original thread removal.
> 
> Lisi, consider change or upgrade your client ;)

The main problem still is, that humans on this list count to much on all
kinds of automatic selection. An id shouldn't be that important as a
subject is. We had thousands of years of natural evolution and now we
try to be better than nature and to select by smart inventions, e.g. by
an id. Living beings should be able to select their self, instead of
using machines that does sort by e.g. an id. On this list there never is
a month without issues to "broken threads". Use a MUA and e.g. sort by
the subject, or anything else that's "human readable".

We should maintain advantages of machines and not insist on ideas that
don't work and seemingly the id thingy doesn't work, regarding to a
"human factor".

We are the "leaders", the machines are the "tools".

In Linuxland we more and more go a step into a direction where the users
should learn to use Linux. I chose Linux to set up my machine to do what
I want, no to learn what the machine wants.

2 Cents,
Ralf


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