Re: books on debian of a beginner nature?
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 22:27 +0100, Joe wrote:
> Why not? I use it on (GUI-less) servers and also when I need a file
> manager/editor working as root on my GUI workstation. Admin work rarely
> needs a heavyweight editor, and it's easier to avoid mistakes if I
> associate the sparse mc screen with root and GUI file managers with
> non-root working.
I'm not against MC or Norton Commander, but it's more common to use GUI
file browsers today and at least the old KDE3 Konqueror is able to
compare to MC and Norton's abilities.
> > > .mp3
Perhaps a question of faith, OTOH some time ago a friend copied me the
"Babes In Arms" from the MC5, because I lost my unplugged version of
"Shakin' Street". No reason to sue me for owning an illegal copy, since
those MP3s are very LoFi, even for MP3s there are different qualities
available, however, I don't own an illegal copy. It's not that easy to
get old pop and rock music that isn't remastered by loudness-war, once
you lost the originals.
> [snip]
> > > Lynx or Links (elinks) are your basic web browsers.
> >
> > That's a joke, isn't it? C'mon!
>
> Yes, I think so. Text web browsers were just about useable ten years
> ago, but there are few leisure sites that will work text-only today. On
> the other hand, if you're only interested in technical Linux sites, or
> man pages for things you don't have installed, (server again..) it's
> fine. And if you only have one computer, and X throws a tantrum, it's
> the only way of getting Internet help to get it running again.
At least I agree that it's useful to have w3m installed, when you stuck
in tty1, because X can't start. I still prefer to boot another of my
several Linux installs, if some install is borked, because X again cause
an issue, since I always have to struggle with text browsers. Btw. I'm
only able to use vi(m), I don't like nano, emacs etc. and even vi(m) is
a PITA for me. I dropped Wanderlust, just because I'm unable to "learn
emacs" ;), really, "emacs" is, but not "elisp" is the issue.
I prefer CLI, cd etc. to file browsers, but I prefer most apps as GUIs
instead of text apps.
- Ralf
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