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debian-user-digest Digest                               Volume 2010 : Issue 1582

Today's Topics:
 question/answer website for user sup  [ Stefano Zacchiroli <leader@debian.o ]
 Re: ECS 6100 PM-K2-v7 BB-3801G        [ Angus Hedger <demidevil@gmail.com> ]
 Re: Printing - CUPS and Canon laser   [ =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelam ]
 Re: [SOT] Installing additional Wesn  [ AG <computing.account@googlemail.co ]
 Re: Debian hyperthreading support     [ =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelam ]
 Re: How to upgrade kernel in Lenny,   [ Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com ]
 Re: A simple GUI volume control tool  [ Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com ]
 Re: Can connect to WPA network, but   [ =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelam ]
 Re: deluge to handle torrents         [ <briand@aracnet.com> ]
 LibreOffice repositories              [ AG <computing.account@googlemail.co ]
 Re: deluge to handle torrents         [ Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> ]
 Re: Printing - CUPS and Canon laser   [ Allan Wind <allan_wind@lifeintegrit ]
 Re: deluge to handle torrents         [ =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelam ]
 Re: Printing - CUPS and Canon laser   [ Allan Wind <allan_wind@lifeintegrit ]
 Re: LibreOffice repositories          [ Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net> ]
 Re: question/answer website for user  [ "=?utf-8?q?Jes=C3=BAs_M=2E?= Navarr ]
 Re: LibreOffice repositories          [ =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelam ]
 [FOLLOWUP] video card reccomendation  [ Rick Pasotto <rick@niof.net> ]

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:24:35 +0200
From: Stefano Zacchiroli <leader@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: question/answer website for user support: shapado.debian.net
Message-ID: <20101003092435.GA16791@upsilon.cc>
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Dear followers of the -user mailing list,
 you might be interesting in knowing that since yesterday there's a new
Debian experiment ongoing in the area of user support:

 http://shapado.debian.net/

which is a multi-language question/answer website where participants can
ask questions, answer questions, and rank answers given by others.  I'm
not a regular participant of this list, but the website might be a nice
complement for those who prefer (either temporarily or on a regular
basis) a web-based medium.  More information have appeared on -project
[1] and Planet Debian [2].

Now that I think of it, there might even be room for some synergies
among this (and similar) list(s) and shapado.debian.net; for instance,
regulars of this list might consider having posted to this list new
questions appearing on the question RSS feed [3]. This is just the idea,
as the actual details of similar syncs are always a bit delicate ...

Keep in mind however that for the moment all this is just an experiment,
the success of it will depend on community participation. See you there?

Cheers.

PS I'm not subscribed, so please Cc:-me on followups if you want your
  message to reach me.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2010/10/msg00009.html
[2] http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2010/10/Question_and_Answer_support_=
for_Debian_users/

[3] http://shapado.debian.net/questions.atom?feed_token=3D4451756b93764d08a=
f84009e7f3c628f


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zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:05:06 +0100
From: Angus Hedger <demidevil@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ECS 6100 PM-K2-v7 BB-3801G
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On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:20:03 +0100
Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday 03 October 2010 10:05:11 Angus Hedger wrote:
<snippy>
> > I had a real hard time finding out what the motherboard was, is it
> > this? [1]. It should all work fine, its very standard hardware.
>=20
> Sorry. :-)  "My bad" to use the current (or is it already past?)
> _expression_. That makes it even kinder of you to have replied - I
> didn't deserve it.

I would think its current, but then I can never keep up with the
rapidly changing set of preferred expressions around these parts!
=20
> > As for the GPU, it should work both under nouveau (NV40 family) [2]
> > and the nVidia binary blob, depending on your needs.
> >
> > If that isn=E2=80=99t the motherboard/etc you are talking about, pleases
> > provide more information or a link!
> >
> > [1]
> > http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Barebones/Novatech/BB-3801G.ht=
ml
> > [2]http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix
>=20
> Thanks, Angus.  That is exactly the board - in fact this actual
> Barebones is what I am thinking of buying on his behalf.  I am being
> more cautious even than usual because it isn't for me!

More than welcome, I couldn=E2=80=99t find the exact motherboard on any of =
the
linux HCL's, but I did find another motherboard with the same Broadcom
AC131 lan chip, and they said it all worked (in 2007), and the sound is
hda-intel so no problem with it under ALSA.

Looking again, it seems the 6100 and nouveau don=E2=80=99t get on very well=
, it
might be fixed, but you can use the nv or nVidia binary
driver depending and it should work fine, and if your planning on
putting lenny on it, nouveau isnt an option anyway :P

> Lisi

------
Regards,

Angus Hedger

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:48:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelamac@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Printing - CUPS and Canon laser printer
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 13:53:31 +1100, Rob Hurle wrote:

> I have a Canon LPB7200Cdn printer connected to the home network and am
> trying to get printing going on Lenny:

(...)

Does the printer have installed the PostScript module? If yes, just
download the PPD file from Canon website and install a new printer from
CUPS (no need to install additional .deb packages).

If the printer is only PCL5e/PCL6 capable, then you can also try with a
generic PCL6 driver (i.e., "pxlcolor").

If you still want to debug the Canon driver, review your Cups log files.

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:59:38 +0100
From: AG <computing.account@googlemail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: [SOT] Installing additional Wesnoth campaigns
Message-ID: <4CA8621A.7010607@gmail.com">4CA8621A.7010607@gmail.com>
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On 03/10/10 09:58, tv.debian@googlemail.com wrote:
> Le 03/10/2010 00:22, AG a écrit :
>
>> On 02/10/10 22:54, tv.debian@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Le 02/10/2010 20:51, AG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 06/09/09 17:33, thveillon.debian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> AG wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry if this is too far OT, but I was hoping for some Debian-specific
>>>>>> advice on obtaining and using Battle for Wesnoth campaigns.  The
>>>>>> website/ forum provides some linkages to additional campaigns, but
>>>>>> after
>>>>>> following their instructions I just can't seem to call the supposedly
>>>>>> installed Wesnoth files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone had any success in this, and if so, care to share the trick
>>>>>> please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers verily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Good question about Sunday mission-critical apps ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read about the user made campaigns here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/List_Of_Campaigns#1.6_Campaign_ListDownload
>>>>>
>>>>> (this is for wesnoth 1.6, pick the right one for you, i.e. 1.7 is in
>>>>> experimental).
>>>>>
>>>>> Download add-ons (campaigns but not only) from:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wesnoth.org/addons/1.6/
>>>>>
>>>>> (again for 1.6)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unpack the archives, copy the whole campaign folder into:
>>>>>
>>>>> /usr/share/games/wesnoth/data/campaigns
>>>>>
>>>>> (this is for full campaigns, for other add-ons you'll have to look
>>>>> around).
>>>>>
>>>>> (Re)start wesnoth, the new campaigns should be available from the
>>>>> campaigns selector.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember to look at the campaign development status, if it's rated
>>>>> "WIP"
>>>>> (Work In Progress) or "broken", you'll likely be disappointed as a
>>>>> player, or thrilled as custom campaign developer...
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi again
>>>>
>>>> I've just tried this again with version 1.8 However, the new campaigns
>>>> don't appear in the Campaigns menu of Wesnoth 1.8.  I've changed
>>>> permissions and chown and chgrp, but still no dice.
>>>>
>>>> Am I overlooking something?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> AG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi, just made a quick test here downloading a campaign from
>>> http://www.wesnoth.org/addons/1.8/ and copied it to
>>> ~/.wesnoth1.8/data/add-ons , it works fine.
>>>
>>> Permissions are drwxr-x--- all the way down to the "add-ons" files.
>>>
>>> I am talking about wesnoth 1.8.3-5 from Sid on a mostly Squeeze AMD64
>>> system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hmmm ... that's interesting:  I have all of the untarred campaigns
>> loaded to /usr/share/games/wesnoth/data/campaigns.
>>
>> All permissions are also drwxr -xr-x throughout the campaigns directory.
>>
>> This is on testing x86.
>>
>> I can't think of what else I need to be adjusting.  Any thoughts?
>>
>> AG
>>
>>
>>
> Hi, you should have a /usr/share/games/wesnoth/1.8/data/campaigns/
> directory, that's where the campaigns should be if you want them
> installed system-wide with wesnoth 1.8. Note the "1.8", I think that's
> because two versions of wesnoth coexisted for a while in the archives.
>
> Have fun.
>
>
>

Doh!! :-(

Thanks for pointing that out to me - it is a rather significant detail I
omitted.

Everything is up and running: thanks again.

AG

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 12:13:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelamac@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian hyperthreading support
Message-ID: <pan.2010.10.03.12.13.55@gmail.com">pan.2010.10.03.12.13.55@gmail.com>
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 01:21:33 +0100, Nathen wrote:

> Thanks for replying. The system is running mainly a file server so it's
> not very CPU-intensive, I wanted to be sure I wasn't wasting performance
> by having it enabled, for example. Thanks

I don't think you are going to get any penalty in performance by using a
kernel with HT enabled (in fact, that could have happened for some P4
featuring the "replay system" but I fairly doubt it is still live in Atom
based CPUs) :-?

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:25:24 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to upgrade kernel in Lenny, not compile a custom one
Message-ID: <i8a3qg$551$1@dough.gmane.org>
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Greg Madden wrote:
>
> On Saturday 02 October 2010 11:59:02 Mark wrote:
>> Based on what I've read, kernel 2.6.32 has fixed the broadcom 4306 rev02
>> wireless card 1 MB/s speed issue and I'd like to have my Lenny system boot
>> into that kernel to fix this issue.

<snip>
>
> Debian backports (official) has the 2.6.32 kernel, add the following to your
> sources.list:
>
> deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main
>

Works good.
/home/hugo/gpc-qt4-002Sun Oct 03-08:59:10SDB3# uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Sat Sep 18 02:14:45 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux

Hugo

Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:29:32 -0500
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: A simple GUI volume control tool for fluxbox
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Rob Owens wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 10:02:56AM -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Liam O'Toole wrote:
>>> On 2010-10-01, T o n g <mlist4suntong@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> I do almost everything on command line. Maybe the only GUI tool I
>>>> need is the sound volume control tool, but I don't have it any more
>>>> -- I used to use tkmixer. Now that it's obsoleted, I'm yet to find a
>>>> GUI sound mixer plain and simple enough for me.
>>>
>>> You don't even need a GUI tool: a console application like alsamixer
>>> (from the alsa-utils package) will do the job.
>>>
>> That's true but what gets me with alsamixer is remembering the keys for
>> left and right up and down.
>> <open the diary> <search for the page with the keys>
>> QWE = up
>> ZXC = down.
>> I don't have to remember with a GUI like with gnome. What's their volume
>> control?
>>
> Gnome's is gnome-volume-control, which is in the gnome-media package.
>
> There's also gnome-alsamixer and alsamixergui to consider.
>

That's it.
Thanks.

Hugo

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 15:36:52 +0000 (UTC)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelamac@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Can connect to WPA network, but not to open network: BCM4312
 card w/ b43 driver
Message-ID: <pan.2010.10.03.15.36.52@gmail.com">pan.2010.10.03.15.36.52@gmail.com>
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 19:52:38 -0400, Brandon Simmons wrote:

> I seem to be unable to successfully be able to connect to an open access
> point, although connecting to a WPA network (through wicd frontend)
> works.

(...)

Some tips:

- Review your wicd logs
- Check with another open AP
- Check that the AP broadcasts its SSID and review its settings
- Try with NetworkManager (if you do not want to install NM to avoid
messing up your current installation, load a LiveCD and test from there)

If none of the above works, there is a second driver you could test (it
requieres a bit more of work, though):

http://wiki.debian.org/wl

> If I can't figure this out and want to file a bug report, should I file
> it against the "linux-image-2.6.32-5-686" package? Thanks for any clues
> and advice.

I'd say yes, AFAICT "b43" driver is included in mainline kernel :-?

Also:

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Support

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:14:31 -0700
From: <briand@aracnet.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: deluge to handle torrents
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On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:56:48 +0200
Vincenzo Tibullo <enzotib@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
>
> Click on a .torrent link, a dialog window open, choose Open With,
> click Browse and go to /usr/bin/deluge
> If the windows do not open, the go to the Preference -> Aplications
> Tab and set Always Ask for .torrent links
>
>

Well, that's what's strange, there is no way to do that.  All I get is
a list of target types, torrent is not among them, and no way to add
one.

I'm running a fairly recent version of iceweasel from unstable.  Just
upgraded a few days ago.

That's why I'm wondering if some other package (mozplugger) is
interfering.

It doesn't seem possible that I'm the only one having this problem.

 Brian

Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 17:56:36 +0100
From: AG <computing.account@googlemail.com>
To: debian user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: LibreOffice repositories
Message-ID: <4CA8B5C4.4080303@gmail.com">4CA8B5C4.4080303@gmail.com>
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Hey list

As many here are probably already aware, due to Oracle buying out Sun,
the OOo developer community has forked the project as a pre-emptive
protection against Oracle doing the same thing to OOo as they did to
OpenSolaris.

As LibO is still in beta mode, one either installs *.debs from the site
or aliens the *.rpm files.  However, having downloaded and dpkg -i the
*.deb files there do seem to be some minor differences between my user
experience and that of those who aliened the *.rpm files.

My question is: any idea how long it might take for the LibO files to
find their way into the testing, etc. repositories and will the OOo
repositories be deprecated?

Any insight into this?

AG

Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:33:37 -0500
From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: deluge to handle torrents
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On 10/03/2010 12:14 PM, briand@aracnet.com wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:56:48 +0200
> Vincenzo Tibullo<enzotib@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Click on a .torrent link, a dialog window open, choose Open With,
>> click Browse and go to /usr/bin/deluge
>> If the windows do not open, the go to the Preference ->  Aplications
>> Tab and set Always Ask for .torrent links
>>
>>
>
> Well, that's what's strange, there is no way to do that.  All I get is
> a list of target types, torrent is not among them, and no way to add
> one.
>
> I'm running a fairly recent version of iceweasel from unstable.  Just
> upgraded a few days ago.
>
> That's why I'm wondering if some other package (mozplugger) is
> interfering.
>
> It doesn't seem possible that I'm the only one having this problem.
>

When I click on a torrent, a dialog box pops up asking me what I
want to do.

The choices are:
  o Open with [Transmission]
  o FlashGot
  o Save File

  x Do this automatically for files like this from now on.

So, I'm presuming that you don't get this kind of dialog?

--
Seek truth from facts.

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 13:25:58 -0400
From: Allan Wind <allan_wind@lifeintegrity.com>
To: Rob Hurle <rob1940@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Printing - CUPS and Canon laser printer
Message-ID: <20101003172558.GA1370@lifeintegrity.com">20101003172558.GA1370@lifeintegrity.com>
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On 2010-10-03T17:13:56, Rob Hurle wrote:
> socket://192.168.87.12
>
> The IP number is correct.  The device is "Canon 7200...." and if I
> change the device to "CAPT Printer" or anything else (including "lpd")
> it reverts to the "Canon 7200...."  I guess that this is ipp (IP
> printing protocol).

No, socket is different from ipp.  Is there not usually a port
when you use a socket as connection?

I would encourage you to push on getting to lpd.  Here is what we
use at work:

lpd://192.168.1.4/port1

You might have explicitly set the PPD after changing the
connection.


/Allan
--
Allan Wind
Life Integrity, LLC
<http://lifeintegrity.com>

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 17:43:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelamac@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: deluge to handle torrents
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 10:14:31 -0700, briand wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:56:48 +0200 Vincenzo Tibullo  wrote:
>
>
>> >
>> Click on a .torrent link, a dialog window open, choose Open With, click
>> Browse and go to /usr/bin/deluge If the windows do not open, the go to
>> the Preference -> Aplications Tab and set Always Ask for .torrent links
>>
>>
>>
> Well, that's what's strange, there is no way to do that.  All I get is a
> list of target types, torrent is not among them, and no way to add one.

You should have the option "Open with → Other" that allows you to add any
program installed on your system.

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 13:31:59 -0400
From: Allan Wind <allan_wind@lifeintegrity.com>
To: Rob Hurle <rob1940@gmail.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Printing - CUPS and Canon laser printer
Message-ID: <20101003173159.GB1370@lifeintegrity.com">20101003173159.GB1370@lifeintegrity.com>
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On 2010-10-03T13:25:58, Allan Wind wrote:
> I would encourage you to push on getting to lpd.  Here is what we
> use at work:
>
> lpd://192.168.1.4/port1
>
> You might have explicitly set the PPD after changing the
> connection.

Try run nmap against the printer to see which ports are
available:

nmap $ip

where $ip is the IP address of your printer.  You will probably
need to install nmap first (`aptitude install nmap`).  It will
tell if you there is any connectivity issues.  lpd is port 515,
ipp is 631 etc (see /etc/services).


/Allan
--
Allan Wind
Life Integrity, LLC
<http://lifeintegrity.com>

Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:48:21 -0800
From: Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: LibreOffice repositories
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On Sunday 03 October 2010 08:56:36 AG wrote:
> Hey list
>
> As many here are probably already aware, due to Oracle buying out Sun,
> the OOo developer community has forked the project as a pre-emptive
> protection against Oracle doing the same thing to OOo as they did to
> OpenSolaris.
>
> As LibO is still in beta mode, one either installs *.debs from the site
> or aliens the *.rpm files.  However, having downloaded and dpkg -i the
> *.deb files there do seem to be some minor differences between my user
> experience and that of those who aliened the *.rpm files.
>
> My question is: any idea how long it might take for the LibO files to
> find their way into the testing, etc. repositories and will the OOo
> repositories be deprecated?
>
> Any insight into this?
>
> AG

A good move imho.

I don't have any special info, but Debian being in a freeze, LibreOO won't be
entering testing or sid until after the release of Squeeze. Not sure if
experimental is used for stuff  like this.

I could be wrong about this :-)
LibreOffice is using Go-oo builds to start, which is what Debian uses.

Rene Engelhard, Debian developer for our OO builds, is part of LibreOffice, looks
like the path forward, just takes time for Debians release schedule to work.
--
Peace,

Greg

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 19:53:55 +0200
From: "=?utf-8?q?Jes=C3=BAs_M=2E?= Navarro" <jesus.navarro@undominio.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Stefano Zacchiroli <leader@debian.org>
Subject: Re: question/answer website for user support: shapado.debian.net
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Hi Stefano:

On Sunday 03 October 2010 11:24:35 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Dear followers of the -user mailing list,
>   you might be interesting in knowing that since yesterday there's a new
> Debian experiment ongoing in the area of user support:
>
>   http://shapado.debian.net/
>
> which is a multi-language question/answer website where participants can
> ask questions, answer questions, and rank answers given by others.  I'm
> not a regular participant of this list, but the website might be a nice
> complement for those who prefer (either temporarily or on a regular
> basis) a web-based medium.

Thus disgregating limited "work force" between two competing environments.
Remember web forums (and spam) was what killed NNTP as a general usage tool
(and I don't think it has been for the better).

[...]

> Keep in mind however that for the moment all this is just an experiment,
> the success of it will depend on community participation. See you there?

For my part, I don't think so.

> Cheers.
>
> PS I'm not subscribed, so please Cc:-me on followups if you want your
>    message to reach me.

And that's exactly why.

Cheers.

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 17:59:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Camale=F3n?= <noelamac@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: LibreOffice repositories
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 17:56:36 +0100, AG wrote:

(...)

> My question is: any idea how long it might take for the LibO files to
> find their way into the testing, etc. repositories and will the OOo
> repositories be deprecated?
>
> Any insight into this?

I think they are still in a very early beta stage (no language packages
which IMO, is a big handicap for an office suite and no ".deb" packages -
BTW, you said there were .deb files for donwload in upstream project,
where did you get them? :-?)

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 14:00:51 -0400
From: Rick Pasotto <rick@niof.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: [FOLLOWUP] video card reccomendation
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On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:51:20PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the regular
> bus. Also my new monitor has 1600x900 resolution and the openchrome
> driver doesn't recognize that resolution. I don't play games, so it's
> mostly for text, web, and an occasional video file.
>
> What would be the least expensive card for my needs?

I bought a GeForce 6200. So far it's working well for me and solved the
bus overload problem I was having.

However I do have a couple of questions. I installed (with aptitude)
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686 which is supposed to give me the nVidea
driver binaries. X aborted because it could not find the nvidia module.
The 'nv' driver works fine.

'dpkg -L nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686' shows what got installed was:

/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/nvidia/nvidia.ko

The 'nv' driver is in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so.

Does xorg need to be told about the different path? Is there some
command I need to run to tell the kernel about the nvidia driver?
What's the difference between '.ko' and '.so'?

As I said, things are working fine it's just that I'm curious as to why
the nvidia driver was not found.

--
"The best way to raise positive children in a negative world is to have
 positive parents who love them unconditionally and serve as excellent
 role models." -- Zig Zigler
   Rick Pasotto    rick@niof.net    http://www.niof.net



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