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Re: Straw poll: What browser do you use?



On 16/09/10 13:11, Bret Busby wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote:


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 19:52, Kelly Clowers <kelly.clowers@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 08:57, Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Kelly Clowers wrote:



You say Moz (?) but, if you refer to Seamonkey, that is diifferent (from
what I understand) to iceape, which has, from what I understand, some of
the
Mozilla stuff that makes Mozilla software what it is, removed.

The only thing that should be removed is the name.


I may be wrong in my understanding, but I believe that some of the
functionality was removed, in the modifications of the Mozilla products to
create the Debian products iceape and iceweasel, as the Mozilla products
apparently did not comply with the Debian philosophy and thence Mozilla
products in their Mozilla forms were no longer available via the Debian
repositories.

If by  "some of the functionality was removed", you mean the standard Firefox
and SeaMonkey Icons, then sure. That's about it AFAIK. Trouble with the icon
licensing (and some issues with carrying patches, I think) led to trouble with
the trademarks, which led  to the name change.


I understood that some of the functionality (subroutines/modules/whatever) did not comply with the Debian philosophy, and so were removed, to make the resultant applications compliant with the Debian philosophy.

I do not remember the details - it was some years ago, I think, when Seamonkey and Firefox were removed from the Debian repositories or removed from a (then) upcoming version of Debian, to be replaced by iceape and iceweasel.

One of the Debian project people, or, if the Debian Project has Project Historians (people who can track historical events/changes in the way the Debian project does its thing) may know more of this, and could better advise regarding this.

Icons are not functionality - they are only widow dressing.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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I understood that some of the functionality (subroutines/modules/whatever) did not comply with the Debian philosophy, and so were removed, to make the resultant applications compliant with the Debian philosophy.
Mozilla Corp. (as opposed to Mozilla Foundation) took offence at:-
  • Debian backporting security fixes to older versions of Firefox/Iceweasel
  • *at Debian allowing users to change search engines and make other modifications*
, and insisted the use of the Firefox name is permitted only if accompanied by its logo, icons, and other artwork (which is in breach of the Debian Free Software Guidlines).

Long story short, icons, artwork, logo, and icons changed in the Debian version (Icecat is another story).
So - reduced funtionality in Iceweasel - emphatically no. In fact Iceweasel has more functionality than Firefox.
Feel free to look it up for yourself - the references are on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel

Cheers

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