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Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?

On 2009-03-30 17:47, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 2009-03-30_16:21:39, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2009-03-30 15:50, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 2009-03-29_11:15:15, Ron Johnson wrote:
If you only have Linux on your computer, then it's clock is most likely UTC.
On a Linux computer, the internal clock is almost certainly *NOT* UTC,
rather it is "seconds since Unix Epoch", often shortened to "seconds
since Epoch", or just "Unix time".
The BIOS does not have a concept of time zone. It only knows "seconds since it's epoch". And that's (I think) translated to a struct or string

True, seconds since it's epoch, but it's epoch is not Unix Epoch, and
all sorts of uncertainties and confusions arise because nobody knows
the "DOS epoch" of someone else's computer. What a mess! At least with
Unix there is only one epoch to argue about, rather than millions and
millions in all the Windows computers in the world.

The implementation of time keeping in Debian/GNU/Linux is actually

It's more Unix/Posix and RFC 1305.

Whoever decided on an epoch of 1970-01-01 00:00:00 was extraordinarily shortsighted, though. The OpenVMS epoch gives much more flexibility...


Now, I want to stop arguing about the descriptions. But just one last
shot.  I believe it is factually incorrect to say that you 'lose an
hour' in switching from standard to summer time. It is conventional
wording, it is manifestly untrue.

Besides, as Tom Furie mentioned losing an hour of sleep, what's really happening is that you are shifting/rotating your UTC offset by 1 hour.

                                  But if people say it often enough,
it becomes something that is used in syllogisms as if it were a fact.

Most people are very sloppy at thinking logically. [troll]Can women even do it?[/troll]

Scooty Puff, Sr
The Doom-Bringer

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