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Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

On Monday 14 July 2008 05:01:11 pm Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:12 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > Alpha release:  We have that, it is called testing.  Packages are
> > "dumped" into Sid, after a period of time with out bug reports, it is
> > moved into testing (10 days?) automatically.
> Other way around.  sid is still in development, testing is where
> packages go barring major bug reports.
> > If you want to change this, YOU MUST market Debian (and Debian does not
> > like to market it's self.) and you MUST make the "cluser" hardware work. 
> > You must NOT make the clueless user jump through hoops, dig through
> > documentation, search the web, all just to make his wireless work or his
> > webpage to display. If you have ever gotten a call from a customer asking
> > "where did I save that file I downloaded" then you KNOW this.  People,
> > all people (aside from hobbiest) want to USE the computer, not make it
> > work.  Ubuntu mostly has solved this issue.
> I'm not sure Ubuntu mostly solved this issue so much as they made it
> pretty.  Debian does the same thing, too, you know...it's not like we're
> still using the old boot-floppies installer and debconf doesn't exist to
> answer questions for you.

Agreed.  IMHO Debian rocks.  I was simply speaking of the "out of the box" 
experience.  Debian is not a good fit for someone who does not want to get 
dirty and edit a file (once in a while).  Most users do not want to EDIT 
(ohhh, scary) a file.

Damon L. Chesser

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