On Monday 14 July 2008 05:01:11 pm Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:12 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > Alpha release: We have that, it is called testing. Packages are > > "dumped" into Sid, after a period of time with out bug reports, it is > > moved into testing (10 days?) automatically. > > Other way around. sid is still in development, testing is where > packages go barring major bug reports. > > > If you want to change this, YOU MUST market Debian (and Debian does not > > like to market it's self.) and you MUST make the "cluser" hardware work. > > You must NOT make the clueless user jump through hoops, dig through > > documentation, search the web, all just to make his wireless work or his > > webpage to display. If you have ever gotten a call from a customer asking > > "where did I save that file I downloaded" then you KNOW this. People, > > all people (aside from hobbiest) want to USE the computer, not make it > > work. Ubuntu mostly has solved this issue. > > I'm not sure Ubuntu mostly solved this issue so much as they made it > pretty. Debian does the same thing, too, you know...it's not like we're > still using the old boot-floppies installer and debconf doesn't exist to > answer questions for you. Agreed. IMHO Debian rocks. I was simply speaking of the "out of the box" experience. Debian is not a good fit for someone who does not want to get dirty and edit a file (once in a while). Most users do not want to EDIT (ohhh, scary) a file. -- Damon L. Chesser damon@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser
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