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question for the listmasters - bounce threshold?



I get a warning from the Debian listservers once in a while that my server is bouncing messages and that:

"If those bounces pass a certain threshold, our bounce-detection will
forcibly remove your subscription."

They also nicely (unlike a lot of list server setups) provide a link to the bounce so I can read it.

In every case, it's due to BLATENT spam getting onto the lists that my SA setup is rejecting at delivery-time.

They do kindly "offer" a solution:

"If you are using 'Before-Queue Content filtering' and you think that this mail is wrong, you should whitelist liszt.debian.org from Content filtering."

But that's not a solution. The Debian lists according to my logs are by FAR the worst lists I'm on for allowing spam through, and if my ULTRA-simple SA setup can stop these things...

Well anyway...

I'm certainly not going to whitelist Debian while it's still my highest source of spam. But the message doesn't indicate the ACTUAL number of bounces that are required before a removal happens.

Anyone ever hit the real number and know how many it takes? I've tried replying to and/or contacting the Listmasters in other polite ways and never receive a response.

Is it a big secret what the real thresholds are?

I read their message this way:

"We can't keep even simple spam off our lists, but we've implemented automatic bounce removal. Please don't filter at delivery time."

To which I say... meh. Just let it fail and take me off the list if you can't do as simple a setup as mine is here... I have nothing fancy going on... and don't use any of the "super aggressive" anti-spam measures. Just "normal" ones.

Nate


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