On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 03:24:28AM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 21:12 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > As far as the fam vs. gamin problem is concerned, > > aptitude figured out the correct course of action all by itself. It > > proposed to ignore the recommendation of fam by these two packages and > > to leave fam uninstalled, thus keeping gamin intact on your system, for > > both XFCE and Gnome to use. All you had to do was to accept the proposed > > solution. > > > > Running aptitude --without-recommends sidestepped the problem, but now > > you might be missing some Gnome features which are implemented by other > > recommended packages. > > > I found a few problems on my system (Lenny/testing) after I replaced fam > with gamin: > > 1) Menus in OO.org took many seconds to open -- at least 15, perhaps > 20. This was extremely irritating and made OO.org a pain to use. do you perhaps have the openoffice.org-gnome package installed? that integrates with GnomeVFS and other stuff. You may want to try adding or removing that package to see if that makes a difference. > > 2) The GNOME trash applet no longer updated to show when there were > items in the trash. I could no longer empty the trash from the panel. > Not such a big deal, but I typically have most windows on most desktops > maximized so I don't usually make use of any icons on the desktop. So I > found it convenient to empty the trash from the panel. > > 3) Nautilus was considerably slower to respond to any attempts to open > a new window. The problem wasn't as severe as the problem with OO.org > > Restoring fam and removing gamin put things back to normal. just out of curiosity, what other packages got pulled in/out as a result of this? > But the > reason I installed gamin in the first place is that exaile requires it, > so in the end I decided to remove a lot of GNOME and am using Openbox > instead. OO.org works fine with gamin, as long as you aren't using it > under GNOME. If you use it under GNOME, it appears you need fam, or > will face some major irritation. I still use the GNOME panel, mainly > because I love Tomboy and find a few other features of that panel > appealing, but I no longer use the Trash applet nor the trash bin at > all. I'm no longer using Nautilus, though it is still installed. I can > get by pretty well with mc and the command line. > > So much for Linux "just working." When they tell you Linux is "about > choice," they often forget to mention that you'll find your choices > restricted by packages and apps that do not play as well together as > they are supposed to. GNOME is a really nice DE, but I am sick and > tired of my choices being restricted by using it. > I understand you are frustrated. FWIW, I found things "just work" much better if you get out of the main DE's. They force lots of stuff on you in order to set up their environments, but as a result the possibilities of conflicting are much higher... A
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