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Re: Installing a JRE plug-in



Bob Proulx wrote:
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
You are right.  But those websites do you use Java.  I think the
confusion was that you did not specify client-side versus server-side.
Those are two different things.  Your statement appears to cover both.

You are correct that the JSP server runs Java.  I don't really have a
concern about server side JSP processes, no more so than ASP sites.
As long as the result is standard browser neutral pages then the
server can be written in any language.  (There tends to be an inverse
correlation there with some server side processes however. :-)

Sorry for not being explicit about client versus server.  Since I was
referencing my laptop and web surfing I thought the context was known
but that was a bad assumption on my part.  I was intending to be
referring to plugins in a client side web browser.  I will try to be
more precise in the future.  Thanks for keeping me accurate.

To summarize my point I believe that few if any wide use consumer web
sites require Java in the client web browser.  For example none of my
online banking sites require it and I can count up six or seven of
those.  I did not even notice that I did not have it installed.  I
personally have only seen Java apps within corporate sites meant for
internal use.  I realize that this does not mean that they don't exist
in the wild but just that in my use model I am not visiting sites that
require it.  But because of this I believe that the number of them
must be small.  Probably to avoid the Java installation consumer
support problems.  I imagine it lowers their customer support issues
to avoid it.

Bob


Bob

Thanks for your continued interest in this thread - your points are really interesting, and I must admit that it is only rarely that I have stumbled across sites that tell me I have a missing plug-in which turns out to be Java. In any event, I got this error message for a site in which I must spend a fair amount of time in order to do an on-line course, so that is what prompted my sudden interest in this.

It is interesting that you say that Iceweasel loads the modules dynamically once installed. Actually my Iceweasel didn't which is why my penultimate e-mail on this thread reported that I had lost the functionality and then later I wrote to disregard the previous e-mail. I had been hoping that Iceweasel would load it dynamically, but it didn't. It was only after I restarted Iceweasel that the modules were loaded. Of course, this could come down to some or other preference setting in Iceweasel, but that is certainly not something that I could address authoritatively.

Many thanks once again. This is going to be a useful thread for me to keep as a reference.

Best wishes

A

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