Re: I am ANGRY with Debian.
El jue, 31-05-2007 a las 19:59 +0100, Nic James Ferrier escribió:
> Max Hyre <max@hyre.net> writes:
>
> > Watch out for loaded words. The decision was indeed
> > ``political'' in that it was put up to a vote, but
> > `politics' has negative connotations that I don't think
> > apply here. Each person voting, whether pro or con, was
> > voting out of principle, not because they'd been bribed, or
> > because they'd been forced to follow the party line. They
> > were deciding what the party line was to be.
> >
> > This is politics at its best, and has no connection to
> > the operations of the U.S. legislative or executive
> > branches, which is what the word `political' is loaded with.
> >
> > Indeed, better coordination in the transition (notably
> > pointing people toward the excised documents) would have
> > been a major improvement. However, ``because of a political
> > decision'' sounds like something derogatory. In what sense
> > do you mean for people to understand that phrase?
>
> Firstly, I disagree that the word 'political' is loaded with
> connections to the US legislative or executive branches; that is a
> parochial view. I am from the UK, why would I make those associations?
>
>
Because, you are running out of your own context.
"And I think that is *exactly* like politics elsewhere. I am not
surprised by that. But I am dissapointed and angry."
>
> In this instance, Debian the community of developers and package
> maintainers, has made a politicial decision and then taken a mandate
> for action from that which overreaches what should have been done.
>
> As far as I can see, only a third of the electorate voted. And Debian
> has a very limited electorate; I have been using Debian for 10 years;
> I have contributed help and user conversions - but I don't get a vote.
>
> What I'm saying is that care should have been taken with the
> decision. It was a sensitive issue and what is being done is not
> sensitive.
>
> And I think that is *exactly* like politics elsewhere. I am not
> surprised by that. But I am dissapointed and angry.
>
>
>
> It is also interesting that a good number of people have seen nothing
> wrong with the actions as they have been taken and I get taken to task
> for bringing it up. That looks a lot like normal politics to me.
>
> --
> Nic Ferrier
> http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk
>
>
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