Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
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On 05/10/07 04:40, Joe Hart wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> [snip]
>>> I am playing the Devil's advocate here. So I might as well fulfill my
>>> role. So, you're saying God was merciful on Isaac because a lamb was
>>> sacrificed instead. Fine. So God demanded cruelty to an animal, which
>>> is also against our modern laws.
>> Cruelty? Where does that come from?
>
>> Or are you a vegan?
>
> No, but I don't think it is right to kill an animal for any purpose than
> to eat it, or perhaps to end it's suffering. But, that's where we can
> come in and say: Ah, but to kill it does relieve its suffering because
> by definition living is suffering if one does not have the intelligence
> of a human being. Actually that brings us also to the point of
> euthanasia and it not being legal in your "free" country.
Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is "someone else killing
you", and I see that as a great slippery slope towards total
government control over life.
>>> Either way one looks at it, the Bible is condoning behavior that is no
>>> longer accepted as being morally just. Or perhaps it is just telling us
>>> what happened, so we can learn from the past. I can't say that seems
>>> very evident looking at many of the things that happen today.
>> Shedding the blood of animals to *cover* human sin was what YHWH
>> demanded.
>
>
> I just don't get how killing something else can atone for your sins.
> penitence must occur to oneself, not to another being.
And I don't think there is "sin", since I'm an atheist.
Although I do believe that there is "evil". Is that contradictory?
>> Jesus' death and the shedding of His blood permanently *washed* away
>> all human sin.
>
>> Note the different words I used: *cover*, which is temporary and why
>> Jews had to make yearly sacrifices, and *washed* which is permanent.
>> The Law is now fulfilled, and now all that is left is for man to
>> believe.
>
>> That, at least, is the way I was taught it by the Assemblies of God.
>
>>> I really just wish that Christians would adhere to the lessons that they
>>> so firmly believe in. But alas, we have a whole lot of people that seem
>>> to do well on Sunday and forget about the rest of the week.
>>> Is it a turn the other cheek world we live in or is the eye for an eye
>>> world?
>
> So which world do you think we live in?
In a hypocritical world.
And I believe that a little hypocrisy is a good thing, and needed
for the smooth functioning of society.
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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