Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

[Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl>]

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Ron Johnson wrote:
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>> I am playing the Devil's advocate here.  So I might as well fulfill my
>> role.  So, you're saying God was merciful on Isaac because a lamb was
>> sacrificed instead.  Fine.  So God demanded cruelty to an animal, which
>> is also against our modern laws.
> 
> Cruelty?  Where does that come from?
> 
> Or are you a vegan?

No, but I don't think it is right to kill an animal for any purpose than
to eat it, or perhaps to end it's suffering.  But, that's where we can
come in and say:  Ah, but to kill it does relieve its suffering because
by definition living is suffering if one does not have the intelligence
of a human being.  Actually that brings us also to the point of
euthanasia and it not being legal in your "free" country.

> 
>> Either way one looks at it, the Bible is condoning behavior that is no
>> longer accepted as being morally just.  Or perhaps it is just telling us
>> what happened, so we can learn from the past.  I can't say that seems
>> very evident looking at many of the things that happen today.
> 
> Shedding the blood of animals to *cover* human sin was what YHWH
> demanded.
> 

I just don't get how killing something else can atone for your sins.
penitence must occur to oneself, not to another being.

> Jesus' death and the shedding of His blood permanently *washed* away
> all human sin.
> 
> Note the different words I used: *cover*, which is temporary and why
> Jews had to make yearly sacrifices, and *washed* which is permanent.
>  The Law is now fulfilled, and now all that is left is for man to
> believe.
> 
> That, at least, is the way I was taught it by the Assemblies of God.
> 
>> I really just wish that Christians would adhere to the lessons that they
>> so firmly believe in.  But alas, we have a whole lot of people that seem
>> to do well on Sunday and forget about the rest of the week.
> 
>> Is it a turn the other cheek world we live in or is the eye for an eye
>> world?

So which world do you think we live in?

Joe
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