Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?
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On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 07:29:09PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote:
> Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> > Wei Chen wrote:
> >> So it is that based on Debian, people create Ubuntu. Also based on
> >> Debian, there is Backports.
> >
> > No. Ubuntu is based on debian, but not debian, ie. compatibility between
> > packages from ubuntu and debian is less than 100%. Packages from
> > backports are *for* debian, so apart from human error and possible bugs
> > slipping in compatibility is 100%.
> >
> >> These are all projects that improve desktop users' experience (from what
> >> I believe, at least). Is there anything that Debian itself does for this?
> >
> > Debian evolves all the time, releasing when ready. How can one think
> > that this wouldn't improve the users' experience? I regularly use both
> > etch and sarge and see a quite large improvement.
> >
> >> There are examples of successful projects. For the workload/manpower
> >> issue, I guess what is needed is a flag. The project is there; people
> >> think it is interesting; and then they may try to contribute to it. For
> >> example, those above mentioned projects also get enough contributors to
> >> work with them.
> >
> > Correct me, if I am wrong, but IIRC there are more people working for
> > debian than for your above mentioned projects.
> >
> > Debian just has a different focus: support a much larger amount of
> > software packages and different architectures; having a 'stable'
> > release. If you don't like or need such many packages and don't want or
> > need a stable system, you don't need to run debian stable.
> >
> > Johannes
> >
> >
> Hi, what I mean is neither that Debian is not improving nor that Debian
> has less contributors. It is not that having a stable system that
> supports a lot of packages and architectures is not good, either.
>
> What I mean is Debian may consider introducing a sub-project/branch
> based on the current main project, dedicating to improve *desktop*
> environment. And its development model can refer to those mentioned
> projects.
>
> For more information, please refer to:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/04/msg00629.html
>
Isn't testing stable enough for most desktop users? I know myself I
stick with testing as a rolling release (Until they update something
big, then I don't upgrade for two to three weeks).
Testing offers enough stability to be a desktop distro. Of course, the
one thing it is missing is very up to date packages, but that's why
the user has options; You have the option to use Debian as a rolling
release (Testing/Unstable), you have the option to use Debian by it's
release name (Etch/Lenny), or you have the option to not use Debian at
all.
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