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Re: OT: sponge burning!



On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:21:12 -0400, Celejar wrote in
[🔎] 20070328182112.a494494f.celejar@gmail.com:

> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:14:40 -0400 (EDT) judd@wadsworth.org wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>      Actually, the war itself is a "war of aggression", which is a
>> war crime.  Other actions which may be war crimes:
>> 
>>     Torturing prisoners.
>>     Using white phosphorus against combatants and civilians
>>        (as opposed to its legal use for battlefield illumination).
> 
> Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons [0]
> clearly allows combat use of incendiary weapons against enemy forces
> (i.e. to kill them, not just illuminate them), except in certain cases
> involving civilians. It is also quite probable that such use isn't
> banned by the agreements against chemical weapons; according to the
> (London?) Times [1], the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical
> Weapons agrees with the US administration that it isn't. C.f. Wikipedia
> [2] and the references there.

..one argument against using Wikipedia here, is a not too recent case of 
somebody editing a page to suit his argument, and then make use of that 
edit to win his flame war, I understand it was spotted fairly quickly but 
I dunno  the details.  ;o)

> Celejar
> 
> [0] http://www.ccwtreaty.com/protocol3.html [1]
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article591095.ece [2]
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
White_phosphorus#Arms_control_status_and_military_regulations

..as a commander or combattant, you will here wanna make fully sure, that 
the full 4 Geneva Conventions does not in any way override your "right" 
to use these weapons, even against mercenaries, such as for _excessive_ 
collateral damage.  

..nukes will often (but not always) be illegal for precisely that reason, 
_excessive_ collateral damage, "a little is ok", a few other kindsa 
weapons are banned for more, I'd say moralistic reasons, e.g. poison gas, 
dum-dum bullets etc, as are mercenaries.  

..arguing how they _should_ be, is completely different to arguing 
against or for the language or the spirit in the Conventions.  ;o)

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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