On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 07:54:34AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On 2/20/07, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 09:25:16PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > >> On 2/19/07, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@verizon.net> wrote: > >> >So I'd expect an upstream diff to be availible from the upstream > >> >website, if it exists. > >> > >> I want to avoid this step and am looking for an easier way, since, as > >> you mention, the upstream diff file may not exist from upstream. > >> Another Question is if Debian orig files are ever modified or if they > >> truly are pure upstream. I'm thinking of the kernel issue where > >> non-free stuff is removed, for example. > >Well from my minute understanding of Debian development and policy, the > >orig.tgz is suppose to be pristine unless there is a really good reason. > > me don't think that your understanding is minute at all :-) > > >Like maybe it contains non-free stuff. IIRC DD Miriam Ruiz had a blog > >post about 'games' that she was packaging and most of them had non-free > >sounds, artwork and datafiles that had to be replaced. You should > >consult the debian-mentors list as they'd know. And of course reading > >Debian packaging and policy guides. > > me was hoping for quick and easy answer, but will check this out. > > >I visited the linux.org site. They have diff there. I'd be interested in > >the breakdown of the MB and hours used to complete this vs the expected > >time to download the binary files. > > IIUC, you mean you want to know the benefits of doing diff files, as > compared to doing binary ones? If you got massive bandwidth, binary's > cool, but if you want all 3 DVD's (loads of us don't have internet > connection), you quickly notice the use of compiling from source via > diffs. What I meant was: get upstream tarball (A minutes,B MB) make to compile (C minutes, D MB) make install (E minutes, E MB) then get diff (F minutes, G MB) make to compile (H minutes, I compile) make install (J minutes, K MB) Time T0=A+C+E Time T1=F+H+J then compare apt-get (L minutes download, M minutes install, N Minutes install) Time T2=L+M initiall install: is T0 < T2 first upgrade: is T1 < T2 is T0+T1 < T2 * 2 -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org |
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