On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:26:07PM -0500, Stephen Yorke wrote: > Thanks for the quick response. > > So it seems like I would ALWAYS need an X-Server but I can do without a Window Manager. no you don't ALWAYS need an X-server. However, to run X applications, you do. You are correct in that you do not need a window manager. You can run an X application all on its own within X. for example, you could (assuming you have X configured), create a .xinitrc file in your home directory with the following contents: firefox then type startx at the command prompt and you'll get an X session with just the one application running in it, probably full screen. How well this might behave is debateable. you can also do away with all the *dm's and just run a windowmanager directly with an .xinitrc that looks like this fvwm or whatever window manager you want. A > > -Stephen > > ________________________________ > > From: Kevin Mark [mailto:kevin.mark@verizon.net] > Sent: Wed 1/10/2007 2:23 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Launch App without X-Windows > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 01:55:21PM -0500, Stephen Yorke wrote: > > Hello all and thanks in advance to any replies I get to this message. > > > > I have a couple of things... > > > > What I want to do is be able to launch applications without actually > > loading X. What I mean is, I want to load RDesktop or Firefox or some > > other application and without actually having a desktop environment > > have the applications still launch for me. > > > > 1. What necessary pieces would I absolutely have to have in place? > > (Window Manager, Video stuff, Mouse, Keyboard, ETC) 2. Any recommended > > links to read about what I actually want to do? > > > > Thanks a lot, Stephen > Hi Stephen, > here is some info: > firefox requires X windows. X windows has certain requirements. > video card->kernel modules->kernel-> X windows modules-> x server+>firefox > window manager+ > x libraries+ > .... > There are many types of applications: > console > curses-based > frame-buffer based > > x based > -athena-based > -qt based > -gtk based > -other toolkits > -x frame buffer based > > The only way I know of running an X windows app with out using a regular > X server is by using the x virtual frame buffer server. > > $ apt-cache show xvfb > Package: xvfb > Priority: optional > Section: x11 > Installed-Size: 3800 > Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org> > Architecture: i386 > Source: xorg-server > Version: 2:1.1.1-14 > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libfontenc1, libxau6, libxdmcp6, libxfont1, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) > Recommends: xbase-clients > Filename: pool/main/x/xorg-server/xvfb_1.1.1-14_i386.deb > Size: 1536234 > MD5sum: 4f008f696f8aa23aef59090898a2a63b > SHA1: 539a380d0dc0f16ba81c7eeb371e307524645d0e > SHA256: 8590b30e11df3684e49bd70b5946215eeab71d64881974507b15279c933559cf > Description: Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server > Xvfb provides an X server that can run on machines with no display hardware > and no physical input devices. It emulates a dumb framebuffer using virtual > memory. The primary use of this server was intended to be server testing, > but other novel uses for it have been found, including testing clients > against unusual depths and screen configurations, doing batch processing with > Xvfb as a background rendering engine, load testing, as an aid to porting the > X server to a new platform, and providing an unobtrusive way to run > applications that don't really need an X server but insist on having one > anyway. > . > This package also contains a convenience script called xvfb-run which > simplifies the automated execution of X clients in a virtual server > environment. This convenience script requires the use of the xauth > program. > . > More information about X.Org can be found at: > <URL:http://xorg.freedesktop.org <http://xorg.freedesktop.org/> > > <URL:http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg> > . > This module can be found as the module 'xserver/xorg' at > :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg > Tag: interface::framebuffer, network::server, role::program, x11::xserver > cheers, > Kev > -- > | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | > | : :' : The Universal | 'under construction' | > | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | > | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | > | my keysever: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org > > > >
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