On Friday 02 June 2006 15:00, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > OK, stay in the regressive hellhole you live in and avoid infecting > > Oregon, then. > > What you call regressive I call fair, equitable and just. None of > which the hellhole you live in can claim. That's fair. OTOH, we don't want people moving here, just spend money and remember to go home when your done visiting. > >> Environmental issues are a joke. > > > > Spilled gasoline creates groundwater and air pollution. Even the EPA > > says this. > > Yes, and the near minimum wage workers don't spill at all, do they? Usually not without help. Last time I saw a gas station spill here, the guy ahead of me drove off with the hose. > > Vancouver, WA self service prices as of this morning: $3.209/gal > > Portland, OR mini-service prices as of this morning: $2.899/gal > > > > Hmm, which is cheaper again? > > And you're sure that's the only factor? The gas station closest to me is managed buy a guy who runs self-serve stations in neighboring Clark County, WA, too. He said he even tried opening mini-serve stations because he wanted to save on insurance and undercut the competition, but was forced to go self-serve there because for some reason, Clark County drivers are more interested in paying much higher prices for gas to do his job for him. > > Yes, because otherwise they sprawl like Los Angeles, the greater evil. > > Uh-huh. Having been in both I far prefer LA to NY, thanks. Oh, yeah, pave the earth, because it's only gotta be around until you're dead, right? > > No, I mean overall. Overemphasis on the freeway and lack of efficient > > public transit have dragged most of this continent to a standstill. > > Yes, well, not like public transportation would help in that matter, it > makes it worse. Like I said, 2 hours to go what I can go 30 minutes on my > motorcycle and that's in a city without major traffic problems and > construction on two of the three freeways in it. In any other large city > there is no way I would even be able to get to work from home in even 2 > hours on public transportation. Given the size of this nation we're doing > quite well when it comes to transportation. The only problem are people > who harp on public transportation even though, time and again, it has > failed. Maybe if you're in a state that lets you wrecklessly zip between lanes on a motorcycle. Everywhere else motorcycles are just as stuck as the rest of traffic. > > Save for Amtrak, which is the postal service for when you need to ship a > > warm body, name one. > > Sorry, no exceptions allowed. I rest my case. It's a good thing people like you usually don't get much heed on this continent politically... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): baloo@ursine.ca Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber
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