On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:05:35PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > > >Well, now I'm repeating myself, but I've fallen in love with WMII > >lately and it dynamically sizes windows based on how many windows are > >open. The problem is some apps are slightly broken vis a vis some of > >the protocols, or they do lots of window rezising and respawning, > >which can be a pain in that set up. just a curiosity sort of > >question. > > > >I'm sure its a fine program and I've heard many good things about > >it... just starting to like the mutt a lot. :) > > > > > For the "broken apps," you can just use the float mode, if there's some > GUI app you really like that doesn't cope well with wmii. I guess that > kinda defeats the purpose of a tiled WM, but it's a pretty necessary > compromise I think unless you're prepared to do without a whole bunch of > different applications altogether. And it works well in wmii. yeah I use that for some things. I find though that the VAST majority of my work is either full screen (web browsing or spreadsheets or gnucash) using maximi[sz]ed mode or its using multiple terminals in which case the default tiled mode is great. And as my eyes (monitor, not sure which actually) get weaker, I begrudge every wasted pixel of desktop. > > Personally, I liked wmii better than Ion3 as I found it easier to use, > but eventually I found it hard to get with the whole Plan9 aspect, which > struck me as introducing a layer of complexity that didn't seem > necessary. Or perhaps it is necessary, but I just didn't really > understand why. I liked trying it out though. I think, in the end, > it's probably not for me. Honestly, I don't understand it either but mucking around in the wmiirc is easy enough and it works. I suspect Plan 9 was just one of those wacky ideas that someone glommed onto and can't let go of. But for a work environment, I'm liking it more and more. Keeping my hands off the mouse is fantastic. And, its amazing how many gui apps you discover are TOO mouse intensive. Sure you can get around using the keyboard, but its kludgy at best. The mouse-intensive and poorly designed keyboard interfaces really glare when you are using the mouse less and less. > One thing trying those WMs out taught me is > the virtue of standards compliance, which unfortunately too many WMs, > DEs, and apps ignore. Openbox and XFCE are, I think, shining examples > of how well things can work when the windowing environment itself is > 100% compliant. They are a pleasure to use because they don't try to > make apps behave the way they think apps should behave, they can be > controlled from the keyboard (especially Openbox -- with keychains and > dynamically generated pipe menus, you never need to reach for the > rodent), and they can be augmented with other standards compliant tools > like Devil's Pie, wmctrl, pypanel, etc. > > But as you say, to each his own. And I still want to try out PekWM. :-) well PekWM looks interesting, but still... all that wasted desktop. bleh :) A > > > -- > Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA > "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of > absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." > --S. Jackson > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmaster@lists.debian.org >
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