Justin Guerin wrote:
Yeah, me too, til about 3am. Had lots of hits but no clearcut solution. Already tried the above but doesn't show me anything. Perhaps you can make something of the results:On Sunday 17 April 2005 08:54, you wrote:I did a little research on the too many open links problem, and it seems to me that you've got recursive links. Can you post the output of ls -l /dev/dsp, and the output of ls -l of every file that original link points to? I have a feeling after one or two steps, it will point back to /dev/dsp, which is a bad thing.Justin Guerin wrote:Copying the list, so others might be able to help On Saturday 16 April 2005 18:49, you wrote:Justin Guerin wrote:<posted & mailed> Leonard Chatagnier wrote:Have tried for several weeks to get sound from my Dell Dimensions XPS T450 with YMF724F sound card and ALSA drivers. snipped ...I used to have a Dell XPS T450 with YMF724 sound, and it worked perfectly. So it's possible.snippedeffort followed the instructions at www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=ymfpci#opt with no resulting sound from my pc. Using alsamixer, I unmuted all and set volume controls up to 90% on everything; still no sound. Googling yielded lots of hits but nothing useful except the above URL. I'm using real player 10 GOLD and can play video news clips from Reuters and API on MyYahoo with good video output but no sound. I do get static from my speakers after setting the alsamixer so I'm confident the speakers are wording. ymfpci module is loaded. I ran update-modules after following the instructions at the above URL. Hopefully someone using the YMF724F card can tell me what is wrong and how to fix it, but would appreciate any help whatsoever. My ALSA related modules.conf is listed below: NOTE: Not subscribed-PLEASE COPY MY EMAIL ADDRESS.[snip modules config]I also tried to set up the*_The .asoundrc file__snipped... Len Chatagnier *snipped: kept for my recordThanks for this info; I couldn't find or maybe overlooked this info when reading the man page for vi(vim). Since the .asoundrc file only enhances, I'll try creating the file when I have sound.Anyway, on to your problem. Did you run aslaconf? That should be able to set up your sound card for you. You will then need to run alsamixer to unmute the channels.Thanks, for your replying. Yes, have run alsaconf and alsamixer twice but still no sound while video plays beatifully. Even tried gamix a coulple of times. Everything set up to 90% or better volume. The last time run alsaconf, it eliminated the dev/dsp artsinformational error message that said "too many links to resolve" or something to that effect. Some progess indicated, maybe? This message popped up everytime I started KDE GUI. Hope I didn't initialize something that would prevent soundfrom playing whenusing the mixers through my ignorance.snipped... "Too many links to resolve" is an interesting error message that I've not seen.Related to this, when I last ran alsaconf, video stopped playing on real player giving a message similar to: non-recognized media format, run change media setting and make sure you have the proper plugins. Control center was set to autodetect so I changed it to OSS and the video started playing again, then went to ALSA and it still played video, no sound, and left it on ALSA. This also brought back the artsinformational message about too many open links on /dev/dsp.
ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# ls -l /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Apr 19 07:11 /dev/ds p -> dsp ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# ls -l/dsp ls: invalid option -- / Try `ls --help' for more information. ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# ls -l /dsp ls: /dsp: No such file or directory ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# ls -l dsp ls: dsp: No such file or directory ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# I did locate dsp: /dev/.udevdb/class@sound@adsp /dev/.udevdb/class@sound@dsp /dev/adsp /dev/dspsnipped a bunch or .ko, .so and .h files wih the 'dsp' sequence in them. I'll ls -l these if needed but I only see the "one" symbolic link to dsp. So, I didn't get anywhere. Also, I think the number 3, after root root(3rd column in ls -l output) indicates the number of links to /dev/dsp? Where are
they, if that's so?
Ok, this could be difficult. There are a lot of them. Do something like locate alsa. Rename all alsa*.conf to *.old.I think the files you tried to play that gave you the error about too many levels of symbolic links are good files. Right now, that's the error you've got to fix. One way to do this is to move all alsa related config files out of the way, run alsaconf, and see if it still generates recursive links. If it doesn't, you might be finished. If it does, post the results, and what you did, and we'll work it from there.You mention that you've been using real player to test the sound. How about using something a little more basic, like a command line utility (play, for example). That might give you a more meaningful error message.After reading the help files for play and sox, did this with results shown: ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# play /usr/lib/games/luxman/11k/siren.snd playing /usr/lib/games/luxman/11k/siren.snd sox: Failed reading /usr/lib/games/luxman/11k/siren.snd: Did not detect valid Sun/NeXT/DEC magic number in header. ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# Also did the same file at 8K with same sox message. Played a different 8K file with same results. If I needed to specify an option, didn't because they are greek to me.This error message indicates that the file you are attempting to play is corrupt. It's not a valid sound file, and even if your sound worked perfectly, you wouldn't be able to play it. Do you have any known good sound files to work with? Unfortunately, this error is detected before play attempts to open your sound device and play the file, so it doesn't tell us anything about whether or not your sound is configured.Are you using a sound daemon, like arts or esd? If so, is real player configured to play through the sound daemon? Snipped...I believe I'm using artsd, but havent' restarted it lately. snipped....If you're logged in to KDE, odds are you're using artsd. You can find out for sure by running "ps ux | grep arts", and if you see a line like this: justin 5404 0.0 2.0 57264 5340 ? S Mar27 5:57 artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -s 10 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f then you're definitely using arts. Alternately, you can open up the KDE control center, then open the "sound and multimedia" section, and click on the sound system module. If "Enable the sound system" is checked, then you're using arts. You might try hitting the test sound button, to see if it provides any good feedback.Artsd is running as shown: lchata@ChatagnierL-Home:/etc$ ps ux | grep arts lchata 3503 0.8 5.7 21164 7312 ? S 12:35 0:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a oss -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f lchata 3513 0.0 0.3 1548 468 pts/1 S+ 12:37 0:00 grep arts lchata@ChatagnierL-Home:/etc$ Also, the enable sound system was checked in control center and playing the test button gives me a beep but the sound is coming from a builtin modem speaker not from my HP polleaudio sterio speakers I have hooked up. The modem has always worked for system sounds. Note: could be the speakers are not plugged in correctly; however, I checked the icons on the recepticles and they appear to be correct. Mic to Mic, speakers to output and a yellow plug tapped from my monitor plug going to input on the Dell machine as they were on the HP Pavilion 8370. I don't have documentation on the Dell so can't be sure about hookup.Post the sound related output of lsmod, and post the attempts at playing sound with a command line utility, and that should help pinpoint the problem.ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# lsmod snipped: results okYou got enough for us to know that you've got the proper alsa related sound modules loaded, and you've got oss emulation running, which means "play" should work. That's good.Justin GuerinJustin, thanks so much for your response. I was beginning to panic and about to remove alsa and give oss a try. Hope the info provided pinpoints the problem. Leonard ChatagnierIt helps, but unfortunately, we pinpointed a problem with the file you were attempting to play, and not your sound setup. If you can find a known valid sound file, post the results of trying to "play" it.Searched sox media type extensions and attempted to play several as follows with results: ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# play /usr/share/sounds/Kopete_User_is_Online.ogg playing /usr/share/sounds/Kopete_User_is_Online.ogg sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Too many levels of symbolic links ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# Estensions cvs, ogg, mp3 all gave the above message. snd gave the original message posted previously. dat gave a message saying it could not determine the sampleing rate. Perhaps I should use some option in the play command? I would be glad to download and play a known good media file if you could suggest one and the URl to locate it. I think we're getting close. For checkout purposes, should I leave KDE sound hardware settings on autodetect as it originally was, on ALSA or on OSS? Also, if you have any suggestions on checking out the speaker, mic, monitor plugs from my HP accessories I'm using into the Dell machine, I'm more than wiling to take the time.
Then run alsaconf? ?to be sure I'm on the same wavelength?
Thanks for coming back. Had time for a little googling and came up with same conclusion, but no solution. BTW, I have sound on w98se on the Dell so, the wiringJustin GuerinThanks for your much needed help. Leonard ChjatagnierSorry for the delay in my response.
setup between my HP speakers, mic, etc must be ok.
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