On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 21:04 -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 03:06:52PM +1100, Blake Swadling wrote: > > > > > > > > I have some machines here that are routinely turned off at the power > > > > button rather than using the correct shutdown procedure. when they are > > politely shoot the people that do that ... :-0 or hitting the reset > > - most admins get tired and start to remove the power and reset > switches .. to avoid that problem too > > - which leaves you the gui to shutdown or pull the plug > and the pc is usually under the desk or far back on the desk > > - lots of other ways, besides bypassing fsck'ing > ( it's there to cover your butt .. a few seconds now will save > ( you days, months of time to try to recover a lost file > > > > > restarted i get the usual error "filesystem not cleanly unmounted...". > > > > it then checks them and prompts me to hit ctrl-d. > > that is a very very good thing > > > > > Is there any way that I can force it to immediately reboot rather than > > > > prompting the user for input? > > that is an extreme bad thing, worst than those that hit the power or reset > switch > - its the same as "the car light came on for no water" so you > bypass the step and disconnect the lights > > - one day, your disk will be too corrupted and you lose > all your files ... or lose your car engine > > convience vs security is one thing ... but bypassing important time > consuming steps is a bad bad thing > - bypassing silly dumb steps is a good thing > > - knowing what's bad and what's good to bypass is up to you > > - and if its nothing else... use reiserfs, jfs, xfs instead > as those are at least lot fsater at recover from power off > > and yup...i get lots of those "help, we lost some important files" > for tommorrows meeting, and i say what did you do and been doing > the past few months ... > ( hint: did you hit reset/power to shutdown and go home ) > > c ya > alvin unfortunately these things are deployed as appliance type arrangements and are generally stashed in a cupboard/server room somewhere with no input devices attached, only a power button. I am using ext3 filesystem. Is there some way to do a fast recovery. I notice that the older versions simply did a journal recovery and bypassed the full scan. This has worked without problems for a significant amount of time without corrupting the fs. Can i do something similar rather than incurring a full scan every time it is shut down? Cheers Blake -- Blake Swadling Senior Software Engineer Newton Pty Ltd Telephone: +61 2 6247 3544 Fax: +61 2 6247 3533 Mobile: +61 407 026277 Web: http://www.newton.com.au
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