Re: Can't Setup/Configure Mailscanner / Can't Upgrade Mailscanner / Can't Uninstall Mailacanner
Kent West wrote:
Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
...What gives, don't I deserve some consideration as the other users 
do?  I do need help on this and other issues I have with Debian 
GNU/Linux.  Again, please help.
Whoa whoa whoa, Leonard. This list is made up of volunteers. As such, 
there's no quicker way to offend your best source of support by 
demanding things of them.
I shouldn't respond but:  What am I to do when no replys follows a 
posting.  Perhaps i should have left out the "What gives..." part.
   In any case this has happened before and I waited a fairly long time 
before reposting.  I've discovered that if a reply hasn't occurred in
   a day or two, there normally won't be any.  Why are you providers, 
the ones who volunteer the help, so sensative?  I've seen some of your
   replys to newbies, not necessarily yours, that literally insults and 
makes the newbie feel like a total idiot.  Some quite recently.  Yes I do
   search the lists for answers to my questions before posting a 
request for help.  And I see a fairly large amount that don't have a 
response,
   some of which would have possible benefited me.  Remember, I 
volunteered to use Debian GNU/linux because I wanted to.  Whether I
   stay with linux depends on the help I get to fix the many problem 
associated with the debian packages.  I have a perfectly good Windows
   98 system that I don't have to fix and update every day, but I want 
linux.  Don't you providers want me to stay with linux?
This Newbie needs serious help with resolving Mailscanner issues in 
subject.  I have transcribed by hand the tty output of
apt-get upgrage re: Mailacanner.  If anyone of you good, kind, 
helpful souls can tell me how to copy the tty output of an
apt-get upgrade and paste it into an email, it would be most helpful 
and time saving for me.  I wouldn't mine editing out
the unrelated material before sending.  It will probably take 
several postings to convey all the issues  This is just the start.
The easiest way is to do this upgrade in an xterm (or equivalent 
terminal window) from within X; then just highlight the text with your 
mouse, go to your email composition window, and middle-click (or 
both-click if you're using a two-button mouse with 3-button emulation) 
to paste that text. If you're not using X, and are doing this from a 
plain-text console, you can do that same thing, but you'll need the 
console mouse driver, gpm, running.
   I'm running from a TTY terminal.  Xterm is one of several 
non-functioning programs I have.  I have no mouse function on the ttys.  
Gpm was
   running but may have failed during one of the upgrades.  FYI: I'm 
running kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 and have testing main contrib etc. in my mirror
   list.  I have updated, upgraded, dist-upgrade until there is little 
to add.  Did this to be in good shape before going to sarge, but I still 
need help on
   grub and kernel-image installation before I do.  Something for the 
future.
 
I think the base problem lies in the Mailscanner configuration/setup 
dialog.  It said to edit /etc/default/mailscanner, after
modifying exim or sendmail to suit your needs, and this statement if 
found in /etc/init.d/mailscanner which originall appeared
on the tty output of an apt-get install mailscanner:
"Please edit the file /etc/mailscanner/mailscanner.conf according to 
your needs.  Then configure sendmail or exim for use
with mailscanner.
After you are done you will have to edit /etc/default/mailscanner as 
well(file didn't exist at the time).  Then you will have to set
the variable run_mailscanner to 1, and then type 
"/etc/init.d/mailscanner start" to start the mailscanner daemon."
Now, the confusion lies in the last paragraph of the quote.  Is this 
the way to set an environmental variable? Do I use the set
command?  Do I put the init.d command in the file or type it at the 
tty promp after saving the file?  Thought about this alot and did
first:
Create the file /etc/default/ mailscanner and added the line 
"run_mailscanner=1" without quotes.  This didn't help and continued
to get error messages during upgrade of mailscanner.
You probably don't need to use the "set" command (presuming you mean a 
shell environment variable); I think you're right that this variable 
should be set in "/etc/default/mailscanner". What you've tried is a 
good guess. I'm surprised the "/etc/default/mailscanner" file does not 
already exist, but as I mentioned, I'm not familiar with 
"Mailscanner", so that may be normal. You might also try something 
like "run_mailscanner 1" (without the equals sign).
You might try "man mailscanner" to see if it has examples of the 
entries in this file. At the bottom of that might be a link to other 
man pages that might help. You might also look in 
"/usr/share/doc/mailscanner" for hints.
   Tried that; did't help.  There is no man mailscanner or man 
Mailscanner on my disk.  I've searched the list postings and what I 
found didn't      apply.     
Then after several upgrades and dist=upgrades:
Added the line "/etc/init.d/mailscanner start" to the file 
/etc/default/mailscanner without quotes.
This is not necessary. The file "/etc/init.d/mailscanner" is a script 
that will start the "Mailscanner" program when entering certain 
runlevels (say, during a normal boot-up).
The instructions above are just telling you to manually start the 
"Mailscanner" program by running this script (with the "start" 
parameter) instead of rebooting (or otherwise changing runlevels) in 
order to start the program. You can start/stop many processes in this 
manner; for example, if you wanted to stop your network, you could run 
"/etc/init.d/networking stop", or start it with 
"/etc/init.d/networking start".
Yes, I used the init.d command from a tty prompt on mailscanner to stop 
the many running programs error message I got when trying to     
upgrade.  It seemed to work but still couldn't upgrade.
This entry didn't help anything but, probably causing all the open 
files.  Still getting error messages regarding upgrading mailscanner.
Tried to uninstall mailscanner but got several postinst and prerm 
dpkg errors mostly error 127.  Don't have accuract tty output to quote
at this time on uninstall.
Okay, so your problem is not so much needing to configure Mailscanner, 
as it is getting the upgrade finished properly. Something's gone wrong 
(perhaps you've run out of disk space, or you didn't do an "apt-get 
update" before doing your upgrade, or a package is broken 
(particularly from Sid or Sarge), or a file failed to download, etc). 
So don't worry about editing the "Mailscanner" config file; worry 
about getting the upgrade finished properly. Then perhaps you'll have 
a config file which I was suprised earlier to find you were lacking.
I have plenta of space in all partitions, run df regularly.  I do update 
before upgrade or dist-upgrade.  I do have have some broken/nonfunctioning
packages, namely xterm, GNOME display, can't open kde windows session 
and others I can't recall now.  Tried but can't fix any including 
mailscanner.  I have been trying to upgrade mailscanner trying 
everything I know to do so that's why I posted.   I did an apt-get 
remove mailscanner today as suggested by Alvin Olga and it appeared to 
work but still gave the same setup mailscanner messages so I not sure it 
worked.
Haven't tried to upgrade again as yet, but will shortly.
So, I'd like to know how to setup/configure mailscanner properly 
regarding specifically the "/etc/default/mailscaner" file and 
"/etc/init.d/mailscanner start" or at least "How to uninstall and 
get it out of my system?"
As mentioned above, it seems like your problem is not with 
"Mailscanner", but with the upgrade process.
Are you installing from CDs, or the network?
Installing with dialup modem using testing.  Not using CD"s for some 
time now.
When you run "apt-get update" do you get any errors?
Not usually with update but always get some error messages using upgrade 
and/or dist-upgrade.
Then when you run "apt-get upgrade", any errors?
See above.
Are you running Sid? Stable? Sarge? If Sid or Sarge, I'd suggest 
"dist-upgrade" rather than "upgrade" in the prior paragraph.
Am updating under testing.  I always do upgrade first followed by 
dist-upgrade.  I assume that Sarge and testing yields the same results
and consider them equivalent.  Hope that's correct.
Appreciate and help/suggestion.
PLEASE COPY MY EMAIL ADDRESS: NOT SUBSCRIBED.
Doh! I had already deleted it from the To: section. You might want to 
put this at the top of your message next time.
Oh, wait; when I created a new "Reply to All" message in order to get 
your email address, it still wasn't there; perhaps your "Reply to:" is 
not properly set?
I know how to fix that.  Will take care of it.
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