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The Debian IRC channel



Hi All.

Yesterday I was testing the new Fedora Core 3 and since I needed some information I connected to the fedora channel on irc.freenode.net. I also connected to the linux channel.

In both these channels I asked a couple of questions and I quickly discovered that people on the channel was very very friendly and helpfull. That actually surprised me alot since I am used to a (after my opinion) a very unfriendly atmosphere on the debian channel. I know that the debian channel isn't part of the officiel debian community.

Now since I found there was such a big difference I adressed the issue on the debian channel afterwards. Quickly a lot of people "pm" me and agreed. I only posted a couple of messages advicing people to maintain the freenode policy of helpfullness and kindness and I stated that the normally unfriendly atmosphere was damanging to debian since many people don't know that the channel isn't debians official channel. Also I stated that the debian community in general is known to be very friendly and helpful.

Saying that I soon experienced a lot of rudeness and after only posting I think about 5 messages in total I got banned. And since I sit on a wan which has only one public IP the entire wan is actually banned.

The reason why I post this here is because I wan't to raise the question wether or not it's a good idea to have an official debian irc channel which would have the good community spirit?

I also consider the current channel as a very unhelpful channel and in many cases people who are trying debian for the first time goes there only to find a lot of insults if they don't understand at first or if they have missed to find some kind of related information. Instead of helping to solve the problem people there might actually be a cause for other people to quit trying to solve the problems and give up.

On the channel there is always a lot of people connected but it seems that only a clique of the same people are answering the questions.

I know that these mailing list a the best place to get help, but if a person needs help here and now an irc channel can be very beneficial which I experienced at both fedora and linux channel yesterday.

What do you think?

Regards,
Kim



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