Re: Yanking a USB Hard Drive/ReiserFS causes Kernel Panic

[Peter Hsu <phsu@pacbell.net>]

I think you missed the point.  As Ron Johnson pointed out, you need to 
use umount before you unplug the device.  If you unplug without using 
umount, then you should EXPECT your system to puke.  For practical 
purposes, you should consider time elapsed since you last wrote to the 
device irrelevant.  Simply because Windows does a better job of 
compensating for novice users who fail to unmount a device prior to 
yanking doesn't mean that's proper procedure.

This is not a bug or quirk in Debian.  It's a refusal on the part of 
the operating system to compensate for failure to follow procedure.

Peter


On Oct 27, 2004, at 3:23 AM, William Ballard wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 11:45:48PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > ReiserFS expected it to be there, can't find it, and pukes.  A bit
> > (no, a lot) ungraceful, but totally understandable.  After all,
> > some process might be trying to write to the device...
>
> I kuh-now, I kuh-now.  But that's what the SYNC option is before.
> If I yank it within say 20 seconds of having used it, that's on me.
>
> Windows actually deals with this better than it used to.  Windows
> used to have serious problems if you lost a HD casually, but I can
> just yank it now with no ill effects ("if I haven't used it in,
> "a while").  Just flush a little more aggressively, that's all.
>
> Some people used autofs, it seems.
>
> Anything promising using the PCI hotplug facility?
>
>
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