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Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC



On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 03:55:21AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:

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> 
>     Quite frankly I'd be more than happy if the US got out of the world.  
>     I'm tired of footing the bill for other nation's defense.  I'd love for the 
> US to get out of Isreal and Palastine.  Not that we're really *IN* it, mind 
> you, except for urging both sides into talking instead of blowing up 
> marketplaces and bulldozing settlements.  Out of the substates of 
> Yugoslavia.  Out of the world in general.  Let it all go to hell because it 
> is clear that in most cases that's exactly what the people want.  Bring it 
> back to our borders and leave it there save for one understanding; any 
> nation messes with us we will retaliate en force.  We'll leave you 
> hellbound hypocrocites alone but you had best leave us alone in return.  
> Isolationist but with the right to defend ourselves.  Let people come and 
> go as they please.  Let the commercial interests do what they will within 
> the bounds of the nations they deal with but as a government, as a nation, 
> let the world be.  Stand or fall on its own. It's not our problem.  Make 
>    the offical comment on every little petty (in your eyes) racial slaughter 
> "not our problem."
> 
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The point-by-point rebuttal was rendered moot by this last part.  We
(the US)
must not withdraw from the world and our borders must remain open and we
must accept being hated and we must stop being so arrogant and we must
do business fairly.  Doing so is the price of living in a country where
over-eating is a problem.  Nobody likes a rich, arrogant, bully. 

Actually it's encouraging that Debian allows cooperation between
socialists and capitalists and isolationists and globalists.  It just
goes to show you that if you have something to keep you busy then you'll
work through the less important differences.

I actually like these threads from time to time.  To those that don't
like them, you can use Mutt and delete threads with a single keystroke.

Mike



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