On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 06:21:58PM +1200, cr wrote: > > Hmm, I rarely heard it used in England (though I haven't lived there for 30+ > years), but I've heard it used all the time here in New Zealand, I thought it > was a Kiwi-ism. > Whinge has been in common usage for as long as I can recall here (UK). Probably the thing to do is for someone with access to check the OED for the etymological references. -- Mark Kent