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RE: Woody vs. Sarge vs. You've heard this before ;-)



Ooooh!  A blanket call for opinions!  Finally a letter I'm qualified to
respond too!

I got on Woody when it was testing because a project I was involved with was
using it.  We had several people from HP on the project and too a man their
Unix was Debian.  It was my introduction to Debian.  About a month ago I
wanted to start with a clean install so I downloaded the stable version of
woody and installed it.  I was disappointed to see that the version of kde
was still 2.2 and the kernel version I had been using under woody testing
(2.4.20) still wasn't available as source under woody stable.

So I decided to jump to Sarge.  I downloaded the CD's and blew up the
install.  I never did get Sarge installed directly and I spent two long hot
weekends trying.  My biggest problem was that my ethernet cards (Intel pro
100) were recognized but no driver was available.  Finally working from a
response on this mailing list I installed woody stable again, changed my apt
sources, and upgraded to Sarge, where I was STILL stuck with kde 2.2!

I stopped.

I re-thought.

I checked the archives.

And I reinstalled Woody stable and added a line to my sources.list to pull
the latest kde from kde.org.  I found a .deb of 2.4.20 sources in testing
and pulled that, built-installed-prayed, and rebooted.

Now I have a nice stable machine with a pretty interface which was all I
really wanted in the first place.

I think most people should think twice before going to testing.  If it's
just one package you're desperate for then take a look at finding a back
port or building from source.  If you really want to TEST DEBIAN then buddy
strap that helmet on, hit the gas, and go for it!  If you want to USE DEBIAN
to get other work, play, learning done then stick to stable.

My .02 for what it's worth.

John Purser

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron [mailto:aaron@core-dev.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:03 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Woody vs. Sarge vs. You've heard this before ;-)


Hey Debian-lovers,

I know this question must get asked a lot, but I wasn't able to turn
up many good answers (and the answer I'm looking for is largely an
opinion, anyhow).

I've just (re)installed Woody on my laptop for about the third time.
The first time I mucked things up severely with Partition Magic, and
the second time I tried to change all of my apt sources to testing and
do an upgrade, which destroyed a lot of perfectly good settings...

My question is whether there is a "safe" (I mean *relatively* safe)
way to move from stable to testing without serious damage, or if I'm
better off formatting and installing from the Sarge netinst CD?

I don't want the hassle of running a hybrid Woody/Sarge system, just
because I'm too lazy to deal with the depedencies, but I don't mind a
few bugs in exchange for a more recent version of KDE/gAIM/whatever.

Any suggestions or past experiences would be most illuminating.

Thanks,

--
Aaron Bieber
-
Graphic Design // Web Design
http://www.fisheyemultimedia.com/
aaron@fisheyemultimedia.com


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