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Re: CPU recommendations *avoid Intel-Shite*

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Please turn off the HTML and learn to quote.

On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 06:44:38PM +1200, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote:
> You have never read any nForce2 reviews?<br>

No, because I got pissed off with nVidia's flippant, uncooperative
attitude to the community.  Yeah, some of thier video cards are really
nice and desirable, but they're totally crippled by shitty drivers.
I'm starting to discourage people from buying nVidia cards as well,
especially considering ATI's cards lately have been pretty awesome and
ATI doesn't dick the community.

I might consider nVidia in the future, but until nVidia buys a clue,
they can suck it.

> Just plug in your AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred&nbsp; cpu &amp; adjust FSB &amp;
> Multiplier to your needs, within the usual physical limits.<br>

Adjusting the multiplier does not work on locked AMD's.  My issue with
AMD is the same as that with nVidia:  They're dicking with thier
customers.  Unless AMD gets a clue, they too can suck it.

> You can get unlocking kits too, yes, they are a pain. But hey, AMD are trying
> to make a profit!<br>

Intel manages to do so without abusing thier customers.  AMD can do
the same.  Intel also is active in the Linux community, which is more
than can be said for nVidia or AMD.

> The case with *Intelshite* (TM), is not so straight forward, motherboards&nbsp;
> with there "lock-in" tactics. Incompatibilities between different Intel cpu's
> &amp; motherboard chipsets, are numerous.. <br>

Nice strawman.  You know that's the case with AMD as well, right?

> As for cost comparison, um, this is too obvious to debate (google for prices
> please &amp; come back informed *please*). But if you think the earth is
> flat, well, that is up to you.<br>

On the flip side, they pay family wages and they're Oregonian.  No,
the Earth's round, just Portland is the center of the known universe.

> Again, google for Intel errors/erratum &amp; Pentium fpu bugs &amp; spare
> me &amp; the list the BS that Intel is superior. But if you think the earth
> is flat, well, that is up to you. The 1 gig PIII recall, is my fave.<br>

> <br>
> Also, if it is hot in Oregon, then ANY hardware will run hot????<br>

Yes, but at least the default heatsink works in hot conditions on
Intel hardware, which can't be said during July and August for AMD
(AMD CPUs seem to start flaking out or locking up in the heat), and
certainly not for Cyrix (though I admit my Cyrix info isn't recent,
but my Cyrix 386 can melt a pintglass of ice in about 10 minutes (I
couldn't find a heat sink for that CPU and it only needed cooling
during the summer, in which I improvised with a pintglass and some

> As for the stuff about kernels, um, why are you trying to deceive? Desperate?
> You can apt-get K7 optimized kernels &amp; other distors have K7 optimized
> kernels also &amp; even Opteron Optimized kernels now.<br>

I wasn't trying to deceive, just saying if you're lazy and don't
change out the kernel in pretty much any distro, the Intel procs will
run slightly faster on an i386 targetted kernel.

> As for conscientious, um, why do *some* Americans think they are the only
> country on the planet???? Besides, with recent "American" (with all due respect
> to the few brave souls who are speaking out against American neo-imperialism,
> right wing politics &amp; economics. Paul, you might like to watch the movie
> "Roger &amp; Me?"), arrogance in completely ignoring the majority of the
> planets countries &amp; peoples &amp; invading &amp; occupying Iraq in violation
> of the UN, I am more inclined to support AMD's European based manufacturing.
> Go FAB 30 in Germany!<br>

I'm Oregonian, not American.  The day Oregon successfully seceeds from
the US will definately be a very good day.  We're growing increasingly
tired of being used.[1]

[1] The difference between us and Quebec in this case is we just want
out entirely to stop bleeding money and electric out of the state
uncontrollably at the whim of Californians whining to congress.  We're
also starting to get way overpopulated and don't like being associated
with the actions of DC, which largely ignore everyone both inside and
outside American territory.  Not that we find America to be bad, we
just don't like being associated with thier actions and paying in but
not getting back and being insulted by the president every time he
speaks of us.

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