Re: Spam mail question - yuppers
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS.
WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME?
EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS.
CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT?
THANK YOU.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jens Gecius" <jens@gecius.de>
To: "Noah Meyerhans" <noahm@debian.org>
Cc: "Alvin Oga" <aoga@Maggie.Linux-Consulting.com>;
<debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: Spam mail question - yuppers
> Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 06:25:40PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> >> and the From <> is a nuisance from some spammers is a
> >> good thing to reject .... ( ie ... <> and "is spammer" )
> >> - havent figured it out yet ..
> >
> > My point was that if you configure your mail server to reject mail
> > From <> then you are in violation of several RFCs and are likely to be
> > placed on the DSN blacklist at rfc-ignorant.org. Please don't do it.
> >
> > Now, if you're not the postmaster at your domain, and are only blocking
> > it for your own personal mail (e.g. via ~/.procmailrc), then go ahead.
> > But realize that if you do then you'll be filtering out legitimate
> > messages from MAILER-DAEMON in addition to whatever spam you filter.
>
> If you're the postmaster at your domain, use postfix and setup some
> decent header/body filters to reject the mail with an appropriate
> smtp-response to the sending host. Postfix is also able to pass such
> <> bounces (just tested it locally). Furthermore, you're able to
> filter hosts which do not have a valid hostname in their HELO/EHLO
> command, which is often not setup correctly by spammers.
>
> This is IMHO the only way to let the spammers know that they are
> unwanted. Although, if I look at my logs, some of them are just
> ridiculously persistent...
>
> Oh, and every once in a while I get caught by the debian-list.
>
> I wrote to the listmaster twice or more already, never got an answer.
> If I had too many bounces, I got kicked off the list.
>
> I could understand this, if the number of rejects is high enough. But,
> because the listserver is doing only one delivery attempt, I feel, the
> number (which I haven't figured out, yet...) is currently too low.
>
> In one case I was kicked off the list, even though there was no recent
> bounce in my logs, just accepted mails. :-( This, I didn't understand.
>
> One more nuisance: if spam hits debian-user and I get trapped by that
> listserver-soft, I get kicked off any debian-* list!
>
> If I would get kicked off the list I bounced, ok, understandable, but
> _all_ lists??
>
> Anybody else around here to answer those questions?
>
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