begin dman quotation: > > Noah (and I) didn't say a firewall was useless, just that discussing > firewalls when the problem is a (potential) mail relay is wholly > pointless. Noah did say that. You, to the best of my knowledge, didn't. The original poster was concerned of a number of things, including the possibility that he'd been hacked. The response that triggered Noah was one opining that if the person didn't have a firewall, he should assume he HAS been hacked. A little broad of a brush, perhaps, since it is possible to secure a system such that a firewall adds nothing (one would hope, for instance, that one's firewall is that secure), but I think we can conclude that any user who makes it clear in his post that he doesn't even know where his MTA's logfiles are kept probably would benefit from a firewall. As long as he doesn't assume firewall == secure, of course. Apologies to Noah for calling him a troll. -- Shawn McMahon | McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong
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