Re: Debian 'crashes'
Ragga Muffin <ragga@pyxis23.ec.t.kanazawa-u.ac.jp> wrotes:
> Daniel Reuter <reuter@Uni-Hohenheim.DE> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Michiel Meeuwissen wrote:
> > > It seems that a way to accomplish this is running apt-get upgrade,
> > > netsape and seti at the same time, in my computer (potato, PIII 500 64
> > > Mb).
> >
> > On Netscape's webpage they strongly recommend at least 64 Mb of RAM for
> > use of Netscape with Linux. So if you run Netscape AND another
> > resource-eating program on a 64 Mb machine, you can expect high loads, at
> > least at startup.
>
> True in a sense, but I can use Nscape 4.5 and plenty of apps including
> dselect/apt on a Cyrix166 with 32Mb.
> No. There's something REALLY weird if Michiel bogs his PIII-500/64Mb
> with that...
>
> > Simpler solution: Don't start Netscape if you don't really, really need
> > it.
I never really, really need it, but well, it's simply handy to have it
running.
>
> If you don't use it, it'll be swapped to disk, so that's not really
> a solution, just a little band-aid.
>
> Michiel, post some more details here, like kernel version, swap-size,
> window/desktop manager etc.
>
> I strongly suspect some hardware/driver problem here.
kernel: Linux warande1124 2.2.14 #1 Sat Jan 29 10:53:47 CET 2000 i686 unknown
swap-size: /dev/hda3 332 364 133056 82 Linux swap
window manager: fvwm
X: XF86_Mach64
I'm pretty sure that it is a matter of memory exhaustion. Netscape leaks
memory until memory + swap are full, and everything gets terribly slow. I
certainly does not leak memory always, but I didn't found out yet what I
have to to to let it start Perhaps it has to do with other runing programs
as well.
Anyhow, I know that netscape is buggy, and I only want that it does not hang
the whole system in such a case.
I added a line
* hard rss 10000
to /etc/security/limits.conf, but I've no clear understanding what it means.
If I make '10000' very small, like '10' or so, then I can't do much (e.g.
man won't work anymore), so I have the impression that it does something.
But would it do anything to a program like netscape as well?
greetings,
Michiel
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