Re: Please use "Depends: lme4 (>= 1.1-10), Imports: Matrix (>= 1.2-3)" in pbkrtest since those packages have dashes in version string
Dear Dirk
[droping externals from CC]
I wonder whether it is worth writing 20 lines of text including shading
a questionable light on your fellow DD to externals while the point was
just to substitute two signs. I'd like to state that I dislike this
mail and I would be happy if you would not apologise on behalf of mine
next time.
Not to say that I keep on disagreeing in the technical matter.
Thank you
Andreas.
On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 09:22:20AM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
>
> Hi Søren,
>
> I would like to apologise for my fellow Debian maintainer. As you may know, I
> am the maintainer of your pbkrtest package which we have in Debian because
> car depends on it.
>
> I told my fellow, and too often over-eager, Debian maintainer that I (as a R
> user and CRAN author) consider the R semantics fine -- R does what it does,
> and here it does not differentiate between '-' and '.'. No R bug as this is
> documented, no need for a change.
>
> On 6 June 2018 at 14:51, Andreas Tille wrote:
> | Hi Michael
> |
> | I'm aware that R does not make a distinction between '-' and '.' in
> | version strings. However, if we use lme4 (>= 1.1.10) or Matrix (>=
> | 1.2.3) in the Debian package this is considered a higher version than
> | the current versions containg a dash. That's why it would help if you
> | could stick to the same spelling as the authors of lme4 and Matrix have
> | choosen to enable us generating versioned dependencies automatically
> | inside the pbkrtest package.
>
> Debian is overzealous in the autotests (which I consider less than ideally
> designed, but that is a Debian-internal discussion) as well as bossy in this
> outreach. It is a missing feature ("bug") in our tooling which should be
> fixed on our side.
>
> In any event, my packaging of your pbkrtest package is already taken care of
> via this patch which will get auto-applied:
>
> https://salsa.debian.org/edd/r-cran-pbkrtest/blob/master/debian/patches/hyphenated_version
>
> So again, sorry for this mail. I had preemptively tried to not have him send
> this, firstly because I disagree on the matter and secondly because he simply
> should not meddle on my relationship with my package upstream -- you. This
> is rather disappointing behaviour going against the very team spirit we
> usually have. At least on better days.
>
> And I also apologise for him addressing you as 'Michael'. Sigh.
>
> Will I get to see you in Brisbane for useR? We got to continue the "evening
> entertainment" tradition from Brussels :)
>
> Cheers, Dirk
>
>
> | I've attached a patch that works for the Debian package.
> |
> | Thanks for considering
> |
> | Andreas.
> |
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> | [DELETED ATTACHMENT fix_versioned_depends.patch, text/x-diff]
>
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